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On the shortest days of the year in Los Angeles[1], there is civil twilight around 6:30am and full daylight before 7am. Maybe the writers, who even have childre

by rz2k 7y ago

On the shortest days of the year in Los Angeles[1], there is civil twilight around 6:30am and full daylight before 7am. Maybe the writers, who even have children, live close to the schools they attend. [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/los-angeles https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/los-angeles

widforss 7y ago
Wow, this really gives you perspective. My corresponding times are 8:21 and 9:55. I would give the world for the opportunity of sunlight evenly distributed over the year.
- JimboOmega 7y ago
  Move to the tropics; there's some variation but it's never very great.
- com2kid 7y ago
  I do kind of enjoy the over 15 hours a day of sunlight Seattle gets in the summer, it peaks at around 16hrs on the longest day! I can get off work at 6, be home at 7, and still have 2 hours of sunlight left! Less than 9 hours in the winter though... that part is harsh.
- ghaff 7y ago
  The thing with evenly distributed sunlight is that, if you work in an office, you're not going to have a lot of free time to be outside and not commuting while the sun is out during the week. With a big skew between winter and summer hours, it's dark in the winter but you don't actually lose that much in-the-sun free time while you gain a huge amount of light during the long summer evenings.
JimboOmega 7y ago
Los Angeles is far south, even in the context of California; that's not true for San Francisco. Also the shortest day of the year isn't the day of the latest sunrise - that'd be the day before daylight savings time ends. On that day in San Francisco civil Twilight is at 7:08 and full daylight isn't until 7:35. If we put aside daylight savings shenanigans, it's still not the same day (because of how the earth's orbit works); it's in fact early January and still 7:25 AM for full sunrise. I definitely shared the experience (growing up in the mid Atlantic) of catching busses before true sunrise so I could get to a 7:40 AM start in the winter months. I don't remember it being fully dark, though that time in my life is a bit of a haze in no small part because I was completely exhausted all the time.
- Gibbon1 7y ago
  > I definitely shared the experience (growing up in the mid Atlantic) of catching buses before true sunrise so I could get to a 7:40 AM start in the winter months. I That reminds me I have a vague memory that there was a lot of pissing when Nixon Admin moved up daylights savings time during the first oil crisis. Parents were complaining that their kids were having to walk to school in the dark. Back then city and suburban kids didn't get rides to school, they all walked.
  - cardiffspaceman 7y ago
    Except high school kids with driver's licenses. Which is not even safer or anything.
irrational 7y ago
Yeah, here in Oregon it is already pitch dark at 7am and we are only halfway through October.

by rz2k 7y ago

widforss 7y ago

Wow, this really gives you perspective. My corresponding times are 8:21 and 9:55. I would give the world for the opportunity of sunlight evenly distributed over the year.

JimboOmega 7y ago
Move to the tropics; there's some variation but it's never very great.
com2kid 7y ago
I do kind of enjoy the over 15 hours a day of sunlight Seattle gets in the summer, it peaks at around 16hrs on the longest day! I can get off work at 6, be home at 7, and still have 2 hours of sunlight left! Less than 9 hours in the winter though... that part is harsh.
ghaff 7y ago
The thing with evenly distributed sunlight is that, if you work in an office, you're not going to have a lot of free time to be outside and not commuting while the sun is out during the week. With a big skew between winter and summer hours, it's dark in the winter but you don't actually lose that much in-the-sun free time while you gain a huge amount of light during the long summer evenings.

JimboOmega 7y ago

Los Angeles is far south, even in the context of California; that's not true for San Francisco. Also the shortest day of the year isn't the day of the latest sunrise - that'd be the day before daylight savings time ends. On that day in San Francisco civil Twilight is at 7:08 and full daylight isn't until 7:35. If we put aside daylight savings shenanigans, it's still not the same day (because of how the earth's orbit works); it's in fact early January and still 7:25 AM for full sunrise. I definitely shared the experience (growing up in the mid Atlantic) of catching busses before true sunrise so I could get to a 7:40 AM start in the winter months. I don't remember it being fully dark, though that time in my life is a bit of a haze in no small part because I was completely exhausted all the time.

Gibbon1 7y ago
> I definitely shared the experience (growing up in the mid Atlantic) of catching buses before true sunrise so I could get to a 7:40 AM start in the winter months. I That reminds me I have a vague memory that there was a lot of pissing when Nixon Admin moved up daylights savings time during the first oil crisis. Parents were complaining that their kids were having to walk to school in the dark. Back then city and suburban kids didn't get rides to school, they all walked.
- cardiffspaceman 7y ago
  Except high school kids with driver's licenses. Which is not even safer or anything.

irrational 7y ago

Yeah, here in Oregon it is already pitch dark at 7am and we are only halfway through October.