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How many people need to senselessly die before we realize that sometimes it's better to just let some lunatic hole up in his house for a few weeks while an FBI

How many people need to senselessly die before we realize that sometimes it's better to just let some lunatic hole up in his house for a few weeks while an FBI agent drinks coffee, reads the news, and waits for them to surrender. That agent was killed while sneaking up to the house like he was a member of Seal Team 6 and stumbled upon the kid out hunting, instead of just driving up to the house and saying "hey, you missed your court date - you're eventually going to need to see the doctor, dentist, or buy ice cream, so let's settle this like adults."

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
>how people need to die before... Exactly 76, seasoned with CX to taste and baked at 350 for 30min. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g74LpP80w4w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g74LpP80w4w Ever since the government has taken a more "wait them out" approach which has worked better for everyone except arguably the government who's lost in court several times since.
harryh 7y ago
In most cases where the "wait them out" strategy is abandoned, it's because their are children involved and there is legitimate reason to be concerned for their safety.
- TheCoelacanth 7y ago
  Surely having a firefight going on in close proximity to them is not great for childrens' safety. Their parents would have to be much crazier than normal for that to be in their best interests.
shadowgovt 7y ago
This would clearly be the best rule of engagement, except that some off-gridders turn out to be the Unabomber.
- FDSGSG 7y ago
  How does that make any sense in this context?
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    Because it's the counterweight to "sometimes it's better to just let some lunatic hole up in his house." Sometimes that lunatic is a threat to others, not just themselves.
    - FDSGSG 7y ago
      It sounds like the logical conclusion of this is that police should go door-to-door searching everywhere in case they might discover more unabombers. I don't think this is a good idea, as in the whole history of the world only one of these lunatics has turned out to be the unabomber. This, BTW, was not even how Kaczynski was found. Which is why I find it rather odd that you'd bring him up.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

>how people need to die before... Exactly 76, seasoned with CX to taste and baked at 350 for 30min. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g74LpP80w4w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g74LpP80w4w Ever since the government has taken a more "wait them out" approach which has worked better for everyone except arguably the government who's lost in court several times since.

harryh 7y ago

In most cases where the "wait them out" strategy is abandoned, it's because their are children involved and there is legitimate reason to be concerned for their safety.

TheCoelacanth 7y ago
Surely having a firefight going on in close proximity to them is not great for childrens' safety. Their parents would have to be much crazier than normal for that to be in their best interests.

shadowgovt 7y ago

This would clearly be the best rule of engagement, except that some off-gridders turn out to be the Unabomber.

FDSGSG 7y ago
How does that make any sense in this context?
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  Because it's the counterweight to "sometimes it's better to just let some lunatic hole up in his house." Sometimes that lunatic is a threat to others, not just themselves.
  - FDSGSG 7y ago
    It sounds like the logical conclusion of this is that police should go door-to-door searching everywhere in case they might discover more unabombers. I don't think this is a good idea, as in the whole history of the world only one of these lunatics has turned out to be the unabomber. This, BTW, was not even how Kaczynski was found. Which is why I find it rather odd that you'd bring him up.