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Has anybody interest in forking the python project and continuing to maintain 2.7 until forever? And by "maintain" I mean no new features, just bug fixes and pe

by sprash 7y ago

Has anybody interest in forking the python project and continuing to maintain 2.7 until forever? And by "maintain" I mean no new features, just bug fixes and performance improvements. Maybe if we find enough volunteers we can pull that off. There is still much useful and valuable legacy software out there that many people use which is getting abandoned for no other reason than some people (like the authors of calibre) are not very fond of the direction python is going. Others can't upgrade to 3.x because you have standard libraries especially in the academic sector that people literally put their whole phd into and that can not "easly" be upgraded just like that because of high complexity, lack of staff and time.

carapace 7y ago
I plan to do exactly that. It's vaporware at the moment, but uh: https://git.sr.ht/~sforman/Bladders https://git.sr.ht/~sforman/Bladders > Maintenance-mode fork of the officially-deprecated Python 2 interpreter and standard library. Bugs fixed, security holes patched, and maybe some performance improvements, but no changes to the syntax or semantics (for that see the Tauthon project, unaffiliated.) - - - Sometime between now and the end of the year I'm going to fork Py2 and set up build jobs to run the test suites. (Maybe later today, it's not hard, it just takes a few spare hours.) Going forward I plan to work on things like improvements to the docs, curating additional packages and libraries (additional to the standard lib), and language tooling (I'd like to keep things like Nuitka, Snakefood, etc. working.) I also want to run fuzzers and other code quality tools over it all.
- sundarurfriend 7y ago
  Before it's too late, I'd like to humbly suggest a name change. Even as a Blackadder fan, the name sounds terrible at a glance, especially for such a (potentially) high profile project. Naming isn't everything, of course, but it has more significance than we consciously realize. It can subconsciously impact decisions in favour of or against the project, as irrational as that is.
  - carapace 7y ago
    I appreciate the sentiment but it's deliberate. I don't want to become high profile. The Python folks have made it pretty clear that they don't want continuity of Python 2 to "dilute the brand" of Python-as-Python-3, so I wanted to wave a big "Don't take this too seriously!" flag over this fork. (Also for the BBC, eh? It would be a little on the nose to call it "Blackadder". Or "Baldrick".)
mixmastamyk 7y ago
https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon

by sprash 7y ago

carapace 7y ago

I plan to do exactly that. It's vaporware at the moment, but uh: https://git.sr.ht/~sforman/Bladders https://git.sr.ht/~sforman/Bladders > Maintenance-mode fork of the officially-deprecated Python 2 interpreter and standard library. Bugs fixed, security holes patched, and maybe some performance improvements, but no changes to the syntax or semantics (for that see the Tauthon project, unaffiliated.) - - - Sometime between now and the end of the year I'm going to fork Py2 and set up build jobs to run the test suites. (Maybe later today, it's not hard, it just takes a few spare hours.) Going forward I plan to work on things like improvements to the docs, curating additional packages and libraries (additional to the standard lib), and language tooling (I'd like to keep things like Nuitka, Snakefood, etc. working.) I also want to run fuzzers and other code quality tools over it all.

sundarurfriend 7y ago
Before it's too late, I'd like to humbly suggest a name change. Even as a Blackadder fan, the name sounds terrible at a glance, especially for such a (potentially) high profile project. Naming isn't everything, of course, but it has more significance than we consciously realize. It can subconsciously impact decisions in favour of or against the project, as irrational as that is.
- carapace 7y ago
  I appreciate the sentiment but it's deliberate. I don't want to become high profile. The Python folks have made it pretty clear that they don't want continuity of Python 2 to "dilute the brand" of Python-as-Python-3, so I wanted to wave a big "Don't take this too seriously!" flag over this fork. (Also for the BBC, eh? It would be a little on the nose to call it "Blackadder". Or "Baldrick".)

mixmastamyk 7y ago

https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon