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You missed it, the reason the older was was arrested was because he was not cooperating with the police investigation. What it exactly means in this context is

You missed it, the reason the older was was arrested was because he was not cooperating with the police investigation. What it exactly means in this context is not completely clear though. But I can imagine the police went to have a look, and the man freaked out. This is uncommon in the Netherlands, I know there are communities in the US with small communities that don't want anything to do with the government. Those people don't even have birth certificates or social security number. But I've never heard anything like that in the Netherlands.

pkaye 7y ago
> But I've never heard anything like that in the Netherlands. They must be really good at hiding themselves. /s
- perl4ever 7y ago
  ...something something kelder vs. achterhuis.
- rosege 7y ago
  yes hide and seek champions! https://imgflip.com/i/3dfs74 https://imgflip.com/i/3dfs74
jandrese 7y ago
In the states those people can pull guns on federal agents and get away with it. It's really incredible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff They're really lucky they didn't send Texas cops up to deal with that. They'll shoot you in your own home just because you forgot to close your door.
- captainredbeard 7y ago
  Both of those would be considered extremely rare events. If you pull a gun on federal agents, you are likely to be shot. The Bundy case is an aberration.
  - jandrese 7y ago
    It's the second time in the past two weeks a cop in Texas has killed an innocent person for no good reason.
    - 77pt77 7y ago
      That you know of...
  - rayiner 7y ago
    That’s not true. Federal agents have numerous armed standoffs that don’t result in anyone getting shot. In the recent Oregon standoff, involving 26 armed militiamen, just one person was killed. When someone does get killed, there is often huge public backlash. Consider Ruby Ridge, where a US militant family had an armed standoff with the US Marshall’s after the father missed a court date for an unrelated charge: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge. In an initial firefight, one member of the family and one federal agent were killed. Later, a federal sniper shot and killed the mother, and shot the father. After the incident ended, the father was acquitted of all charges except missing the original court date. One of the sons, who had killed the federal agent, was acquitted of all charges. The government settled wrongful death actions for over $3 million. Several years later, the state prosecutor indicted the federal agent who had killed the mother (though the charges were dismissed after a different prosecutor was elected).
    - merpnderp 7y ago
      How many people need to senselessly die before we realize that sometimes it's better to just let some lunatic hole up in his house for a few weeks while an FBI agent drinks coffee, reads the news, and waits for them to surrender. That agent was killed while sneaking up to the house like he was a member of Seal Team 6 and stumbled upon the kid out hunting, instead of just driving up to the house and saying "hey, you missed your court date - you're eventually going to need to see the doctor, dentist, or buy ice cream, so let's settle this like adults."
      - 7y ago
dsfyu404ed 7y ago
>not cooperating with the police investigation Here in the US that means "lawyering up instead of being dumb and running his mouth", not sure if it's the same over there. If he was really not cooperative the police would be more than happy to say exactly what (they say) he did.
- himlion 7y ago
  Strong privacy laws prevent them from doing that. I saw an interview with a police officer and they could basically not say anything at all. Most info comes from journalists.
- Scarblac 7y ago
  It's just the smallest, easiest to prove thing that allows them to lock him up for a short time while the investigation is getting started. When they know more about what actually happened they can file more detailed charges.

pkaye 7y ago

> But I've never heard anything like that in the Netherlands. They must be really good at hiding themselves. /s

perl4ever 7y ago
...something something kelder vs. achterhuis.
rosege 7y ago
yes hide and seek champions! https://imgflip.com/i/3dfs74 https://imgflip.com/i/3dfs74

jandrese 7y ago

In the states those people can pull guns on federal agents and get away with it. It's really incredible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff They're really lucky they didn't send Texas cops up to deal with that. They'll shoot you in your own home just because you forgot to close your door.

captainredbeard 7y ago
Both of those would be considered extremely rare events. If you pull a gun on federal agents, you are likely to be shot. The Bundy case is an aberration.
- jandrese 7y ago
  It's the second time in the past two weeks a cop in Texas has killed an innocent person for no good reason.
  - 77pt77 7y ago
    That you know of...
- rayiner 7y ago
  That’s not true. Federal agents have numerous armed standoffs that don’t result in anyone getting shot. In the recent Oregon standoff, involving 26 armed militiamen, just one person was killed. When someone does get killed, there is often huge public backlash. Consider Ruby Ridge, where a US militant family had an armed standoff with the US Marshall’s after the father missed a court date for an unrelated charge: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge. In an initial firefight, one member of the family and one federal agent were killed. Later, a federal sniper shot and killed the mother, and shot the father. After the incident ended, the father was acquitted of all charges except missing the original court date. One of the sons, who had killed the federal agent, was acquitted of all charges. The government settled wrongful death actions for over $3 million. Several years later, the state prosecutor indicted the federal agent who had killed the mother (though the charges were dismissed after a different prosecutor was elected).
  - merpnderp 7y ago
    How many people need to senselessly die before we realize that sometimes it's better to just let some lunatic hole up in his house for a few weeks while an FBI agent drinks coffee, reads the news, and waits for them to surrender. That agent was killed while sneaking up to the house like he was a member of Seal Team 6 and stumbled upon the kid out hunting, instead of just driving up to the house and saying "hey, you missed your court date - you're eventually going to need to see the doctor, dentist, or buy ice cream, so let's settle this like adults."
    - 7y ago

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

>not cooperating with the police investigation Here in the US that means "lawyering up instead of being dumb and running his mouth", not sure if it's the same over there. If he was really not cooperative the police would be more than happy to say exactly what (they say) he did.

himlion 7y ago
Strong privacy laws prevent them from doing that. I saw an interview with a police officer and they could basically not say anything at all. Most info comes from journalists.
Scarblac 7y ago
It's just the smallest, easiest to prove thing that allows them to lock him up for a short time while the investigation is getting started. When they know more about what actually happened they can file more detailed charges.