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I feel Ionic is more engaged into open web than big companies trying to enforce their own standards. The question is when Appple and Google will start blocking

by hmart 7y ago

I feel Ionic is more engaged into open web than big companies trying to enforce their own standards. The question is when Appple and Google will start blocking (outside of walled garden app stores) hybrid apps?

_bxg1 7y ago
Why would they block hybrid apps? Apple only cares if your hybrid app loads its code at runtime. They couldn't care less if it's JavaScript. Edit: If by "hybrid app" you meant "progressive web app", then yeah, Apple has made it somewhat inconvenient to pin websites to your home screen as apps. But they'd never really be able to block them altogether without blocking the web itself, because there's no hard distinction between the two.
- hmart 7y ago
  That's what I thought, also fear to losing control in the audit or approval process.
- dougmany 7y ago
  I had a Cordova app rejected by the Apple store because it did not use enough native iOS functionality.
  - _bxg1 7y ago
    Were you going out of your way to circumvent native functionality somehow? A calculator app probably "doesn't use much native iOS functionality", but I don't see how that would get it negative points on App Store approval.
    - dougmany 7y ago
      It is basically a search tool to help people find facilities. It does look a lot like a web site though.
      - _bxg1 7y ago
        It could've just been a look and feel thing then, which is one thing Ionic attempts to help out with
      - oakesm9 7y ago
        That's your issue then. They have rules to stop the App Store being flooded with website wrappers. For it to be in the app store, there needs to be something it offers to make it worthwhile for users. If it's just a website, they can just use a web browser and pin it to the home screen if it's something they use frequently.
  - yesimahuman 7y ago
    We see that sometimes and it's almost universally apps that are just websites wrapped up, or more "brochure" apps. Apple doesn't like those, but it has nothing to do with Ionic/Cordova/Capacitor.

by hmart 7y ago

_bxg1 7y ago

Why would they block hybrid apps? Apple only cares if your hybrid app loads its code at runtime. They couldn't care less if it's JavaScript. Edit: If by "hybrid app" you meant "progressive web app", then yeah, Apple has made it somewhat inconvenient to pin websites to your home screen as apps. But they'd never really be able to block them altogether without blocking the web itself, because there's no hard distinction between the two.

hmart 7y ago
That's what I thought, also fear to losing control in the audit or approval process.
dougmany 7y ago
I had a Cordova app rejected by the Apple store because it did not use enough native iOS functionality.
- _bxg1 7y ago
  Were you going out of your way to circumvent native functionality somehow? A calculator app probably "doesn't use much native iOS functionality", but I don't see how that would get it negative points on App Store approval.
  - dougmany 7y ago
    It is basically a search tool to help people find facilities. It does look a lot like a web site though.
    - _bxg1 7y ago
      It could've just been a look and feel thing then, which is one thing Ionic attempts to help out with
    - oakesm9 7y ago
      That's your issue then. They have rules to stop the App Store being flooded with website wrappers. For it to be in the app store, there needs to be something it offers to make it worthwhile for users. If it's just a website, they can just use a web browser and pin it to the home screen if it's something they use frequently.
- yesimahuman 7y ago
  We see that sometimes and it's almost universally apps that are just websites wrapped up, or more "brochure" apps. Apple doesn't like those, but it has nothing to do with Ionic/Cordova/Capacitor.