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> The facial unlock is less intrusive and requires the user to do less Errr? I just pick up my samsung phone and my finger naturally rests on the fingerprint

> The facial unlock is less intrusive and requires the user to do less Errr? I just pick up my samsung phone and my finger naturally rests on the fingerprint sensor as I'm pulling it out, which instantly unlocks it in any conditions and the phone is ready to go by the time I'm looking at it. Vs. I have to tilt my iPhone up so it can see my face and make sure it's not blinded by the sun and then wait 500ms for it to think about whether I'm me or not. Vs. I get stopped at the border and they want warantless access to my iPhone. I say no. They just point it at me and unlock it. Fingerprint ID is superior in every way.

dkonofalski 7y ago
You need to have your eyes opened and pointed at the phone in order to do that and you can easily disable FaceID in the event that were to ever happen to you by just clicking the side button. I won't comment on the other statements as they're a matter of preference that I simply disagree with.
- ASalazarMX 7y ago
  Face unlock is utterly insecure. Grab the phone and tell the owner "hey, what's this?". It will unlock before they remember not to look at it. You can be forced to put your finger on the device to unlock it, but at least that has no plausible deniability. the most secure option is still a long PIN/passphrase, but that's too inconvenient.
  - dkonofalski 7y ago
    What's your point? If someone is looking to compromise you and they have physical access to your phone, it's already over. The only situation where this matters is with law enforcement and you can click the power button to disable Face ID or Touch ID.
    - ASalazarMX 7y ago
      My point is FaceID trades security for convenience. Seems like you love it, but that doesn't change the trade off. To temporarily disable FaceID and TouchID, you "just press and hold the side button, and either one of the volume buttons". Good luck remembering the procedure and having the time to do that in an emergency or mugging.
      - dkonofalski 7y ago
        You can also just tap the Power button 5 times to require your passcode. Seems pretty easy to just tap it a million times while you're handing your phone over.
detritus 7y ago
Having recently 'upgraded' from my old Nexus 5 to a hand-me-down iPhone 5s, my single favourite feature is the fingerprint sensor - it makes logging in automatic - something I can do in my pocket if I wish.

dkonofalski 7y ago

You need to have your eyes opened and pointed at the phone in order to do that and you can easily disable FaceID in the event that were to ever happen to you by just clicking the side button. I won't comment on the other statements as they're a matter of preference that I simply disagree with.

ASalazarMX 7y ago
Face unlock is utterly insecure. Grab the phone and tell the owner "hey, what's this?". It will unlock before they remember not to look at it. You can be forced to put your finger on the device to unlock it, but at least that has no plausible deniability. the most secure option is still a long PIN/passphrase, but that's too inconvenient.
- dkonofalski 7y ago
  What's your point? If someone is looking to compromise you and they have physical access to your phone, it's already over. The only situation where this matters is with law enforcement and you can click the power button to disable Face ID or Touch ID.
  - ASalazarMX 7y ago
    My point is FaceID trades security for convenience. Seems like you love it, but that doesn't change the trade off. To temporarily disable FaceID and TouchID, you "just press and hold the side button, and either one of the volume buttons". Good luck remembering the procedure and having the time to do that in an emergency or mugging.
    - dkonofalski 7y ago
      You can also just tap the Power button 5 times to require your passcode. Seems pretty easy to just tap it a million times while you're handing your phone over.

detritus 7y ago

Having recently 'upgraded' from my old Nexus 5 to a hand-me-down iPhone 5s, my single favourite feature is the fingerprint sensor - it makes logging in automatic - something I can do in my pocket if I wish.