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Obviously, enough Amazon bots are giving me bad karma, but my point stands: No, Amazon is not a special snowflake because it did this. This was an expensive ex

by vkaku 7y ago

Obviously, enough Amazon bots are giving me bad karma, but my point stands: No, Amazon is not a special snowflake because it did this. This was an expensive exercise in spite, took a long time and a lot of people - and everyone knows it. They could have done this far efficiently already if they wanted to scale out, but that company has too many conflicting internal priorities that they took a heck of a long time to move away to anything that scales. They never try to invent things and if not Oracle, they'd use some other vendor built software. That is the true reality of this company. So no, if you're thinking you're better than this company for moving away from vendor built software, you are mistaken. In the worst possible way.

brixon 7y ago
They did move to vendor built software. They moved to one that they could get better prices for, AWS. Everyone else will not likely get the deal that they received.
- Slippery_John 7y ago
  > Everyone else will not likely get the deal that they received. True, but similarly few people would be able to swing the kind of discount they got at Oracle. I'd be really interested in seeing what those discounts worked out to overall.
whoisjuan 7y ago
"Amazon bots"... sure dude. Because all your opinions are popular by default. Otherwise is just "bots" downvoting you. Why people can't admit that their opinions can be unpopular sometimes. That's not a bad thing. Not all the things you say need to be popular to have meaning to yourself and others. It sucks to be downvoted but that's part of having a healthy discourse in HN.
- vkaku 7y ago
  Okay, all is fair in a really healthy discussion. The reason I write what I write anyway is because I believe in them. Your point is taken and accepted. I've slammed Google, FB and some other tech companies on certain occasions BTW, and I absolutely never felt bad about it. Thanks!
StreamBright 7y ago
It is hard to understand what you are saying. HN is not really an AWS loving place. Expensive in regard of what? If you end up saving 50% of your year over year cost across all the company than spending millions on this project and running it for 5 years is still worth the investment in the long run at their scale. Amazon is not looking for 1 month investments, their AWS endeavour is 13 years old[1]. They can spend a long time on something if they really up to it. 1. https://www.statista.com/statistics/250520/forecast-of-amazon-web-services-revenue/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/250520/forecast-of-amazo...

by vkaku 7y ago

brixon 7y ago

They did move to vendor built software. They moved to one that they could get better prices for, AWS. Everyone else will not likely get the deal that they received.

Slippery_John 7y ago
> Everyone else will not likely get the deal that they received. True, but similarly few people would be able to swing the kind of discount they got at Oracle. I'd be really interested in seeing what those discounts worked out to overall.

whoisjuan 7y ago

"Amazon bots"... sure dude. Because all your opinions are popular by default. Otherwise is just "bots" downvoting you. Why people can't admit that their opinions can be unpopular sometimes. That's not a bad thing. Not all the things you say need to be popular to have meaning to yourself and others. It sucks to be downvoted but that's part of having a healthy discourse in HN.

vkaku 7y ago
Okay, all is fair in a really healthy discussion. The reason I write what I write anyway is because I believe in them. Your point is taken and accepted. I've slammed Google, FB and some other tech companies on certain occasions BTW, and I absolutely never felt bad about it. Thanks!

StreamBright 7y ago

It is hard to understand what you are saying. HN is not really an AWS loving place. Expensive in regard of what? If you end up saving 50% of your year over year cost across all the company than spending millions on this project and running it for 5 years is still worth the investment in the long run at their scale. Amazon is not looking for 1 month investments, their AWS endeavour is 13 years old[1]. They can spend a long time on something if they really up to it. 1. https://www.statista.com/statistics/250520/forecast-of-amazon-web-services-revenue/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/250520/forecast-of-amazo...