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When they threaten you with lawsuits for using their software, and make their pricing completely opaque so you don’t really know what you owe (Comcast style), w

When they threaten you with lawsuits for using their software, and make their pricing completely opaque so you don’t really know what you owe (Comcast style), why would you knowingly choose that? Postgres is pretty darn good these days. I still love Java, but I won’t be surprised if that language becomes a business risk because of Oracle’s behavior in other spaces.

onefuncman 7y ago
You must have missed the Amazon Corretto announcement— there’s an Amazon JDK now.
- bluejekyll 7y ago
  My guess is that like they did with Google, with time, Oracle will go after all the OpenJDK derivatives. To be clear the licensing appears to be open enough so that this shouldn’t be a real threat, but IANAL.
  - briffle 7y ago
    I'm sure it will be priced at just below the cost in legal fees to defend yourself..
  - isbvhodnvemrwvn 7y ago
    Coretto passes TCK (as well as RedHat and Zulu, amongst others out there), there's nothing to sue for.
  - tsimionescu 7y ago
    Google did not have an OpenJDK alternative, they had a implementation of a language and stdlib that was 99% identical to Java.
- vbezhenar 7y ago
  Oracle owns Java. Amazon just builds its own version.
GetOutOfBed 7y ago
> Postgres Yes, maybe there will be built in automatic fail over in a few years so you don't have to hack it together using a bunch of scripts. Of course there's overlap in functionality and most companies should probably chose PG over Oracle. But PG is a joke in some areas like the above mentioned.
- Keyframe 7y ago
  Maybe PG even gets kickbacks as a feature. Who knows!
- grumpydba 7y ago
  > Yes, maybe there will be built in automatic fail over in a few years so you don't have to hack it together using a bunch of scripts. thanks microsoft !! https://github.com/citusdata/pg_auto_failover https://github.com/citusdata/pg_auto_failover
  - GetOutOfBed 7y ago
    > curl https://install.citusdata.com/community/rpm.sh https://install.citusdata.com/community/rpm.sh | sudo bash Yeahh I guess not. Let me know when I don't have to hack it together with a bunch of scripts and the PG team takes availability seriously.
    - grumpydba 7y ago
      It's on yum.postgresql.org, the official repo. Come on!

onefuncman 7y ago

You must have missed the Amazon Corretto announcement— there’s an Amazon JDK now.

bluejekyll 7y ago
My guess is that like they did with Google, with time, Oracle will go after all the OpenJDK derivatives. To be clear the licensing appears to be open enough so that this shouldn’t be a real threat, but IANAL.
- briffle 7y ago
  I'm sure it will be priced at just below the cost in legal fees to defend yourself..
- isbvhodnvemrwvn 7y ago
  Coretto passes TCK (as well as RedHat and Zulu, amongst others out there), there's nothing to sue for.
- tsimionescu 7y ago
  Google did not have an OpenJDK alternative, they had a implementation of a language and stdlib that was 99% identical to Java.
vbezhenar 7y ago
Oracle owns Java. Amazon just builds its own version.

GetOutOfBed 7y ago

> Postgres Yes, maybe there will be built in automatic fail over in a few years so you don't have to hack it together using a bunch of scripts. Of course there's overlap in functionality and most companies should probably chose PG over Oracle. But PG is a joke in some areas like the above mentioned.

Keyframe 7y ago
Maybe PG even gets kickbacks as a feature. Who knows!
grumpydba 7y ago
> Yes, maybe there will be built in automatic fail over in a few years so you don't have to hack it together using a bunch of scripts. thanks microsoft !! https://github.com/citusdata/pg_auto_failover https://github.com/citusdata/pg_auto_failover
- GetOutOfBed 7y ago
  > curl https://install.citusdata.com/community/rpm.sh https://install.citusdata.com/community/rpm.sh | sudo bash Yeahh I guess not. Let me know when I don't have to hack it together with a bunch of scripts and the PG team takes availability seriously.
  - grumpydba 7y ago
    It's on yum.postgresql.org, the official repo. Come on!