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The list seems like a dream, especially the healthcare part and the neutrality of the Swiss, not as extreme and divided. The housing, taxes and pay are icing on

The list seems like a dream, especially the healthcare part and the neutrality of the Swiss, not as extreme and divided. The housing, taxes and pay are icing on the cake. To top it off, Switzerland looks like a dreamland with all those amazing views.

saiya-jin 7y ago
What housing do you mean? It is truly amazing here in many aspects, but housing is worse than rest of Europe. Rents are very high, you compete with many many people so any drawback on your resume (non-perfect job, kids, pets, coming from non-cool country) disqualifies you quickly. Houses/apartments are old, badly designed since there is little pressure to improve (people will come anyway). This is valid for biggest cities, some rural places might be better. This and taking care for the kids (Switzerland is ranked among the worst/most difficult places globally to have kids, can confirm) are biggest drawbacks. Still worth it, but definitely not for everyone.
- drawkbox 7y ago
  Good to know on the housing. I guess it just sucks everywhere in terms of availability, quality and space in a good market location. SV is just as bad or worse. There has to be a way to fix that, how nice would it be for hot markets to have housing? The problem is hot markets for jobs/economy/investment are also hot markets for real estate rents. It sucks as a worker you have to live somewhat disheveled and less than you need or far away just to work in a good market. Remote working for the win where applicable.
goatinaboat 7y ago
The housing If you have a shower or run a bath or do laundry in your apartment outside of the designated hours, your neighbours will complain to the landlord and you may be evicted. The Swiss are very, very fond of rules, and even fonder of enforcing them.
- netsharc 7y ago
  Source? Exaggerate much?
  - ThePadawan 7y ago
    I would say it's slight exaggeration, having lived in Switzerland for over ten years. I would put it on the same level as "my home owner's association fined me for only watering my lawn twice a week instead of three times a week". Not impossible to believe, but also far from normal.
- drawkbox 7y ago
  I did see that you can't do laundry on Sunday in the article, strange. > Swiss society is built on the principle of local communities and public engagement. Swiss people have a high sense of ownership and like to decide on how the things are shaped around them. > This might seem too restrictive for some people because of some seemingly silly rules, like: no laundry on Sunday but it leads to a generally happy society which is able to solve its problems.

saiya-jin 7y ago

What housing do you mean? It is truly amazing here in many aspects, but housing is worse than rest of Europe. Rents are very high, you compete with many many people so any drawback on your resume (non-perfect job, kids, pets, coming from non-cool country) disqualifies you quickly. Houses/apartments are old, badly designed since there is little pressure to improve (people will come anyway). This is valid for biggest cities, some rural places might be better. This and taking care for the kids (Switzerland is ranked among the worst/most difficult places globally to have kids, can confirm) are biggest drawbacks. Still worth it, but definitely not for everyone.

drawkbox 7y ago
Good to know on the housing. I guess it just sucks everywhere in terms of availability, quality and space in a good market location. SV is just as bad or worse. There has to be a way to fix that, how nice would it be for hot markets to have housing? The problem is hot markets for jobs/economy/investment are also hot markets for real estate rents. It sucks as a worker you have to live somewhat disheveled and less than you need or far away just to work in a good market. Remote working for the win where applicable.

goatinaboat 7y ago

The housing If you have a shower or run a bath or do laundry in your apartment outside of the designated hours, your neighbours will complain to the landlord and you may be evicted. The Swiss are very, very fond of rules, and even fonder of enforcing them.

netsharc 7y ago
Source? Exaggerate much?
- ThePadawan 7y ago
  I would say it's slight exaggeration, having lived in Switzerland for over ten years. I would put it on the same level as "my home owner's association fined me for only watering my lawn twice a week instead of three times a week". Not impossible to believe, but also far from normal.
drawkbox 7y ago
I did see that you can't do laundry on Sunday in the article, strange. > Swiss society is built on the principle of local communities and public engagement. Swiss people have a high sense of ownership and like to decide on how the things are shaped around them. > This might seem too restrictive for some people because of some seemingly silly rules, like: no laundry on Sunday but it leads to a generally happy society which is able to solve its problems.