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Is there a shutter sound if you take a video?

nroets 7y ago
Even if there is, it will only be at the beginning. So you can circumvent the intent of the law (e.g. filming the police) by starting to film yourself, pretending to stop and then point the camera at the subject.
- Forbo 7y ago
  The intent of the law was to dissuade upskirt photos on trains, not filming the police, if I recall correctly.
  - kazagistar 7y ago
    There is always some bullshit moral outrage used as the excuse to make laws that are really there to protect existing institutions of power.
    - infecto 7y ago
      I think you are mistaken. There is no formal law AFAIK but it was just an agreement made by companies in Japan. You are free to order a phone outside of Japan. This was a huge issue in Japan when phones started getting cameras and so everyone made a handshake agreement.
      - hrktb 7y ago
        I think it’s worse than that. As far as I remember Jphone, the company first heavily advertising camera phones, forced the shutter on its own to preemptively clear itself from any potential issue. Every phone carrier from there had the choice to forgo the mandatory shutter sound but risk backlash if anything were to happen, as Jphone set a precedent. And they choose the safety move. When the iPhone came, it would have just been a marketing quagmire to go with a mutable sound.
      - brigandish 7y ago
        In Japan, the difference between formal law and cultural law with respect to their enforcement is often not a distinction worth making (as John Stuart Mill pointed out in On Liberty⁎). Just ask women how interested the police are in dealing with rape or domestic abuse. Only yesterday I was reading a Reddit thread where someone new to Japan asked whether to inform the police of the apparently violent arguments his neighbours were having and the responses varied from "don't bother, the police won't care" to "make a noise complaint, at least the police will be interested". That's the least scary anecdote I have. ⁎ Probably not about Japan specifically :)
        DerekRobot 7y ago
        Example: The gentlemen's agreement to end competition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_motorcycles#Gentlemen's_agreement_to_end_competition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_mot...

Even if there is, it will only be at the beginning. So you can circumvent the intent of the law (e.g. filming the police) by starting to film yourself, pretending to stop and then point the camera at the subject.

Forbo 7y ago
The intent of the law was to dissuade upskirt photos on trains, not filming the police, if I recall correctly.
- kazagistar 7y ago
  There is always some bullshit moral outrage used as the excuse to make laws that are really there to protect existing institutions of power.
  - infecto 7y ago
    I think you are mistaken. There is no formal law AFAIK but it was just an agreement made by companies in Japan. You are free to order a phone outside of Japan. This was a huge issue in Japan when phones started getting cameras and so everyone made a handshake agreement.
    - hrktb 7y ago
      I think it’s worse than that. As far as I remember Jphone, the company first heavily advertising camera phones, forced the shutter on its own to preemptively clear itself from any potential issue. Every phone carrier from there had the choice to forgo the mandatory shutter sound but risk backlash if anything were to happen, as Jphone set a precedent. And they choose the safety move. When the iPhone came, it would have just been a marketing quagmire to go with a mutable sound.
    - brigandish 7y ago
      In Japan, the difference between formal law and cultural law with respect to their enforcement is often not a distinction worth making (as John Stuart Mill pointed out in On Liberty⁎). Just ask women how interested the police are in dealing with rape or domestic abuse. Only yesterday I was reading a Reddit thread where someone new to Japan asked whether to inform the police of the apparently violent arguments his neighbours were having and the responses varied from "don't bother, the police won't care" to "make a noise complaint, at least the police will be interested". That's the least scary anecdote I have. ⁎ Probably not about Japan specifically :)
      - DerekRobot 7y ago
        Example: The gentlemen's agreement to end competition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_motorcycles#Gentlemen's_agreement_to_end_competition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_mot...