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If you install the VS Code's C# extension, you should be getting autocomplete and quick fixes such as adding impport statements automatically. https://code.vis

by denisw 7y ago

If you install the VS Code's C# extension, you should be getting autocomplete and quick fixes such as adding impport statements automatically. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/csharp https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/csharp

james_s_tayler 7y ago
It's still nowhere near the same level of experience that Rider or VS offer.
- rraghur 7y ago
  I use VSCode with C# extension. THe only thing I missed was the additional analysis and quick fixes that full VS provides. However, that got sorted out by installing Roslynator in VS Code (works on linux too) and I couldn't be happier.
- wayneftw 7y ago
  Thank goodness that VSCode is a different experience! VS and Rider are a pain in the ass to setup and maintain and VSCode provides the essential UX better than just about anything else at this time. I can have VSCode installed and running with my personal settings on any OS within 2 minutes flat. I don't have to find a secret license key, login with any account, or pick through a list of 100 features in the installer. Then, once it's installed, well VSCode is just a better experience for the basic act of editing source code. Multiple cursors, quickly opening files by typing the name (without having to type a greater than sign followed by a space first every time like you do in VS), sane default keyboard shortcuts for managing/splitting documents and so on... Plus, it's got way better facilities for working with front-end web code than VS ever had and some other major features such as remote editing oh and one other little thing: it's fully cross-platform. And that's the reason for VSCodes wild success. Let's hope Microsoft never fucks it up by trying to glom the rest of their Azure/Microsoft Account crap onto it too much. Luckily, I don't have to work on anything that needs a designer anymore, like WinForms, but if I did I would certainly install VS. Even then - I think I'd only use VS for the designer and go back to VSCode for everything else. (And I love Windows and I used to love VS, having used both of them for 30 years and 15 years respectively.) But the VSCode team also covered a lot of ground faster than VS ever did, adding feature after feature. So, what do you want for C#? I'm certain that we'll be getting it soon.
  - apk-d 7y ago
    I've been using VSCode for C# daily for a year or two. I'm considering switching to a non-electron editor because of how slow and sluggish it is, including IntelliSense, refactoring, syntax highlighting and the latency and frame rate of actual rendering (huge drain on the battery if you have one). The editor doesn't (seem to) support language-integrated syntax highlighting, so no ambiguous language features get recognized and there's plenty of bugs (such as with around the C#7 ValueTuple syntax feature). The C# extension tends to freeze a couple of times a day. One feature that excels out of nowhere is the search functionality which greps entire folders almost instantly, probably because the functionality is delegated to a separate (native, I presume) process. JSON-with-schema-based configuration is something more software should have. The editor also starts pretty fast but most features are delegated to extensions which load (ultra)lazily and aren't usable for a few (5-30) seconds.
    - wayneftw 7y ago
      Just curious: are you on a Mac or Windows? I never experienced any freezing at all on Linux.
      - apk-d 7y ago
        Windows, although my experience with VSCode on Ubuntu wasn't very smooth or stable either (worked with TypeScript for a few months a while ago).
  - com2kid 7y ago
    > Luckily, I don't have to work on anything that needs a designer anymore, like WinForms, but if I did I would certainly install VS. Even then - I think I'd only use VS for the designer and go back to VSCode for everything else. (And I love Windows and I used to love VS, having used both of them for 30 years and 15 years respectively.) The WinForms designer is wonderful. I can throw up an ugly CRUD app that works so insanely fast with it. The web-equivalents are horrible. Everyone is trying to make a rich web app to write rich web apps and IMHO they are all targeting way too low on the "technical ability" scale for their users. Though web is harder, since apps need to be responsive, and cross plat, and automating code gen of CSS that does that cannot be easy, and having a form designer UI expose settings for how a UI resizes itself doesn't sound like a UX challenge I'd want to tackle.
wokwokwok 7y ago
Oh no, don’t do that. The vscode integration is barely beyond autocomplete, and it uses more memory than rider does. The c# story for vscode still has a long way to go before it’s even close to feature parity. (...and yes, if you scrabble enough plugins you can get more features, but you get more crashes and even more memory slurping. :/)
- manigandham 7y ago
  What do you mean? The official C# support is from the Omnisharp plugin [1]. Omnisharp is the official .NET cross-platform development support system and is used across many different interfaces (VSCode, Atom, Sublime, etc). It's powered by Roslyn [2], the C# compiler platform, and can use the same packages for analyzers and autofixes that VS uses. It also has official debugging support. This is way beyond autocomplete. 1. https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-vscode https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-vscode 2. https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-roslyn https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-roslyn
  - wokwokwok 7y ago
    I don’t know what to say; except, yes, and the experience on atom, sublime and the other tools that use omnisharp is terrible. It’s not unusable, but for example, I can’t refactor my code base without it crashing, and forget any advanced features like jump to symbol or extract class. The only feature that works reliably for me is autocomplete. I can only speak for personal experience; omnisharp on Windows and Mac, on .net core (or heaven forbid you use something non standard like unity3d) ... It’s just terrible. Perhaps your combination of platform / project is a different story, but I try it again every few months, and bluntly, rider is just better at everything. Visual studio on windows is also excellent, and the tooling is usually tighter (rider usually lags when new stuff like .net core 3 comes out, and the azure function integration is a bit spotty because it uses the core tools). /shrug Tldr; my experience, on multiple platforms on multiple projects has been simply negative every time I’ve used it. Ymmv.
samuell 7y ago
I can second that. Worked better on Xubuntu/VSCode than on Windows/VSCode even. Really smooth in fact, with intellisense/autocompletion and more just working. Then, I used it only on small CLI apps so far.

by denisw 7y ago

james_s_tayler 7y ago

It's still nowhere near the same level of experience that Rider or VS offer.

rraghur 7y ago
I use VSCode with C# extension. THe only thing I missed was the additional analysis and quick fixes that full VS provides. However, that got sorted out by installing Roslynator in VS Code (works on linux too) and I couldn't be happier.
wayneftw 7y ago
Thank goodness that VSCode is a different experience! VS and Rider are a pain in the ass to setup and maintain and VSCode provides the essential UX better than just about anything else at this time. I can have VSCode installed and running with my personal settings on any OS within 2 minutes flat. I don't have to find a secret license key, login with any account, or pick through a list of 100 features in the installer. Then, once it's installed, well VSCode is just a better experience for the basic act of editing source code. Multiple cursors, quickly opening files by typing the name (without having to type a greater than sign followed by a space first every time like you do in VS), sane default keyboard shortcuts for managing/splitting documents and so on... Plus, it's got way better facilities for working with front-end web code than VS ever had and some other major features such as remote editing oh and one other little thing: it's fully cross-platform. And that's the reason for VSCodes wild success. Let's hope Microsoft never fucks it up by trying to glom the rest of their Azure/Microsoft Account crap onto it too much. Luckily, I don't have to work on anything that needs a designer anymore, like WinForms, but if I did I would certainly install VS. Even then - I think I'd only use VS for the designer and go back to VSCode for everything else. (And I love Windows and I used to love VS, having used both of them for 30 years and 15 years respectively.) But the VSCode team also covered a lot of ground faster than VS ever did, adding feature after feature. So, what do you want for C#? I'm certain that we'll be getting it soon.
- apk-d 7y ago
  I've been using VSCode for C# daily for a year or two. I'm considering switching to a non-electron editor because of how slow and sluggish it is, including IntelliSense, refactoring, syntax highlighting and the latency and frame rate of actual rendering (huge drain on the battery if you have one). The editor doesn't (seem to) support language-integrated syntax highlighting, so no ambiguous language features get recognized and there's plenty of bugs (such as with around the C#7 ValueTuple syntax feature). The C# extension tends to freeze a couple of times a day. One feature that excels out of nowhere is the search functionality which greps entire folders almost instantly, probably because the functionality is delegated to a separate (native, I presume) process. JSON-with-schema-based configuration is something more software should have. The editor also starts pretty fast but most features are delegated to extensions which load (ultra)lazily and aren't usable for a few (5-30) seconds.
  - wayneftw 7y ago
    Just curious: are you on a Mac or Windows? I never experienced any freezing at all on Linux.
    - apk-d 7y ago
      Windows, although my experience with VSCode on Ubuntu wasn't very smooth or stable either (worked with TypeScript for a few months a while ago).
- com2kid 7y ago
  > Luckily, I don't have to work on anything that needs a designer anymore, like WinForms, but if I did I would certainly install VS. Even then - I think I'd only use VS for the designer and go back to VSCode for everything else. (And I love Windows and I used to love VS, having used both of them for 30 years and 15 years respectively.) The WinForms designer is wonderful. I can throw up an ugly CRUD app that works so insanely fast with it. The web-equivalents are horrible. Everyone is trying to make a rich web app to write rich web apps and IMHO they are all targeting way too low on the "technical ability" scale for their users. Though web is harder, since apps need to be responsive, and cross plat, and automating code gen of CSS that does that cannot be easy, and having a form designer UI expose settings for how a UI resizes itself doesn't sound like a UX challenge I'd want to tackle.

wokwokwok 7y ago

Oh no, don’t do that. The vscode integration is barely beyond autocomplete, and it uses more memory than rider does. The c# story for vscode still has a long way to go before it’s even close to feature parity. (...and yes, if you scrabble enough plugins you can get more features, but you get more crashes and even more memory slurping. :/)

manigandham 7y ago
What do you mean? The official C# support is from the Omnisharp plugin [1]. Omnisharp is the official .NET cross-platform development support system and is used across many different interfaces (VSCode, Atom, Sublime, etc). It's powered by Roslyn [2], the C# compiler platform, and can use the same packages for analyzers and autofixes that VS uses. It also has official debugging support. This is way beyond autocomplete. 1. https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-vscode https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-vscode 2. https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-roslyn https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-roslyn
- wokwokwok 7y ago
  I don’t know what to say; except, yes, and the experience on atom, sublime and the other tools that use omnisharp is terrible. It’s not unusable, but for example, I can’t refactor my code base without it crashing, and forget any advanced features like jump to symbol or extract class. The only feature that works reliably for me is autocomplete. I can only speak for personal experience; omnisharp on Windows and Mac, on .net core (or heaven forbid you use something non standard like unity3d) ... It’s just terrible. Perhaps your combination of platform / project is a different story, but I try it again every few months, and bluntly, rider is just better at everything. Visual studio on windows is also excellent, and the tooling is usually tighter (rider usually lags when new stuff like .net core 3 comes out, and the azure function integration is a bit spotty because it uses the core tools). /shrug Tldr; my experience, on multiple platforms on multiple projects has been simply negative every time I’ve used it. Ymmv.

samuell 7y ago

I can second that. Worked better on Xubuntu/VSCode than on Windows/VSCode even. Really smooth in fact, with intellisense/autocompletion and more just working. Then, I used it only on small CLI apps so far.