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Internment like in WW2? Probably not. Pretty sure the only viable way would be to enact laws to enforce extremely stringent eligibility requirements on foreign

Internment like in WW2? Probably not. Pretty sure the only viable way would be to enact laws to enforce extremely stringent eligibility requirements on foreign students/workers.

GhettoMaestro 7y ago
> Internment like in WW2? Probably not. I wasn't thinking in such drastically illegal terms to be candid... so: no. > Pretty sure the only viable way would be to enact laws to enforce extremely stringent eligibility requirements on foreign students/workers. I agree in principle. My thoughts are more along the lines of mass denials of any type of visa from [mainland] China for the purposes of study and/or work. If it gets bad enough, total denial of all visas. (I don't feel a kinship with China that I do with Mexico/Latin-America and Canada.) This is a long term threat. I don't want any short term reactionary type policy. I want a strategic policy that addresses the threat, not just our emotions in the current times. Edit: Lol the Chinese are out in force tonight.
- CharlesColeman 7y ago
  > I agree in principle. My thoughts are more along the lines of mass denials of any type of visa from [mainland] China for the purposes of study and/or work. If it gets bad enough, total denial of all visas. (I don't feel a kinship with China that I do with Mexico/Latin-America and Canada.) No, that's dumb. The answer is to let the students in, maybe push them away from militarily sensitive areas of research, and improve the education they receive in the US to counter CCP propaganda narratives. If the later is done, maybe we can actually realize the hopes of someday liberalizing China. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/01/world/asia/hong-kong-protests-education-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/01/world/asia/hong-kong-prot...
  - GhettoMaestro 7y ago
    > The answer is to let the students in [...] How about no. I'm tired of this bullshit meme. We've done this for 25 years and it has not made a god-damned difference except for causing a drain of intellectual property from the US to China. The [privileged] students can suffer in China alongside the plebs for all I care. They are not in our national interest and no comment on HN will change that fact.
yupolerist 7y ago
Maybe a Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act

Internment like in WW2? Probably not. Pretty sure the only viable way would be to enact laws to enforce extremely stringent eligibility requirements on foreign students/workers.

GhettoMaestro 7y ago

> Internment like in WW2? Probably not. I wasn't thinking in such drastically illegal terms to be candid... so: no. > Pretty sure the only viable way would be to enact laws to enforce extremely stringent eligibility requirements on foreign students/workers. I agree in principle. My thoughts are more along the lines of mass denials of any type of visa from [mainland] China for the purposes of study and/or work. If it gets bad enough, total denial of all visas. (I don't feel a kinship with China that I do with Mexico/Latin-America and Canada.) This is a long term threat. I don't want any short term reactionary type policy. I want a strategic policy that addresses the threat, not just our emotions in the current times. Edit: Lol the Chinese are out in force tonight.

CharlesColeman 7y ago
> I agree in principle. My thoughts are more along the lines of mass denials of any type of visa from [mainland] China for the purposes of study and/or work. If it gets bad enough, total denial of all visas. (I don't feel a kinship with China that I do with Mexico/Latin-America and Canada.) No, that's dumb. The answer is to let the students in, maybe push them away from militarily sensitive areas of research, and improve the education they receive in the US to counter CCP propaganda narratives. If the later is done, maybe we can actually realize the hopes of someday liberalizing China. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/01/world/asia/hong-kong-protests-education-china.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/01/world/asia/hong-kong-prot...
- GhettoMaestro 7y ago
  > The answer is to let the students in [...] How about no. I'm tired of this bullshit meme. We've done this for 25 years and it has not made a god-damned difference except for causing a drain of intellectual property from the US to China. The [privileged] students can suffer in China alongside the plebs for all I care. They are not in our national interest and no comment on HN will change that fact.

yupolerist 7y ago

Maybe a Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act