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The site seems to not currently functioning, which... doesn't bode well? I am interested in how a social network can be socialist, per se.

natechols 7y ago
The jokes practically write themselves...
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  I was going go comment "it doesnt work" but I didnt want people to think I was making fun of the political ideology instead of reiterating the website not working.
  - bifrost 7y ago
    Keyboard Stalin once said -> "The loss of one click is tragic, but the loss of thousands is statistic."
    - fstopmick 7y ago
      hahahahaha stop distracting me with your wit
- WarDores 7y ago
  Someone else was supposed to pick up the bandwidth tab.
  - bifrost 7y ago
    I think there was a song about that.
- anoncake 7y ago
  The dev must have used a dysfunctional programming language. They should have used a functional one, without classes and state.
bifrost 7y ago
Maybe its for "Social-Ists"? Like a weird way of saying people who like to be social? And hopefully not the kind of socialism that Russia/DPRC employ, that would be the worst of all worlds.
- anoncake 7y ago
  > socialism [...] Russia [...] Welcome back! A lot has changed in the 30+ years you were in coma.
  - bifrost 7y ago
    I was talking about actual Russia not Ukraine/etc. We could talk about the USSR but not everyone gets what that is anymore...
    - anoncake 7y ago
      Russia isn't socialist at all, not even in the Soviet sense.
lukifer 7y ago
Not only does socialism suffer from a "No True Scotsman" problem (there is a wide disparity, from within and without, regarding what the term means), I dare say that's true of just about every -ism under the sun. (TODO: invent a political ideology that includes a formal specification.) :)
- anoncake 7y ago
  "Socialism" being an ambiguous term would not be that much of a problem if people stopped pretending it isn't and every socialist is a tankie. It's hard to believe someone is arguing in good faith if they criticize anarchists for trying to build a totalitarian dictatorship. We have a problem with people seeing Ms. Scott from England, thinking her skirt is a kilt and getting angry when she claims she can't play the bagpipe.
  - averros 7y ago
    Totalitarians have used anarchists to achieve their goals in the past. Anarchists themselves may believe they're fighting the Man, but they're just being useful idiots. When the general populace gets fed up with anarchist antics and rioting they start clamoring for tougher law enforcement (and stronger leaders). That's when totalitarians come in.
  - lukifer 7y ago
    No dispute. Obviously decades of anti-Soviet propaganda (which does encapsulate many legitimate critiques) have muddled the conceptual landscape, both in terms of oversimplification, and in emotional charge. And, we have significant status quo bias regarding our particular neoliberal form of capitalism; you can't tell a fish about water. Still, even correcting for those historical factors, I think every -ism, or school of thought, suffers from similar problems in subjective perception: it's easy to find nuance and diversity of opinion if one looks for it, and equally easy to find bad actors, tribalist talking points, sloppy thinking, etc, if one looks for it. > We have a problem with people seeing Ms. Scott from England, thinking her skirt is a kilt and getting angry when she claims she can't play the bagpipe. :)

natechols 7y ago

The jokes practically write themselves...

giancarlostoro 7y ago
I was going go comment "it doesnt work" but I didnt want people to think I was making fun of the political ideology instead of reiterating the website not working.
- bifrost 7y ago
  Keyboard Stalin once said -> "The loss of one click is tragic, but the loss of thousands is statistic."
  - fstopmick 7y ago
    hahahahaha stop distracting me with your wit
WarDores 7y ago
Someone else was supposed to pick up the bandwidth tab.
- bifrost 7y ago
  I think there was a song about that.
anoncake 7y ago
The dev must have used a dysfunctional programming language. They should have used a functional one, without classes and state.

bifrost 7y ago

Maybe its for "Social-Ists"? Like a weird way of saying people who like to be social? And hopefully not the kind of socialism that Russia/DPRC employ, that would be the worst of all worlds.

anoncake 7y ago
> socialism [...] Russia [...] Welcome back! A lot has changed in the 30+ years you were in coma.
- bifrost 7y ago
  I was talking about actual Russia not Ukraine/etc. We could talk about the USSR but not everyone gets what that is anymore...
  - anoncake 7y ago
    Russia isn't socialist at all, not even in the Soviet sense.

lukifer 7y ago

Not only does socialism suffer from a "No True Scotsman" problem (there is a wide disparity, from within and without, regarding what the term means), I dare say that's true of just about every -ism under the sun. (TODO: invent a political ideology that includes a formal specification.) :)

anoncake 7y ago
"Socialism" being an ambiguous term would not be that much of a problem if people stopped pretending it isn't and every socialist is a tankie. It's hard to believe someone is arguing in good faith if they criticize anarchists for trying to build a totalitarian dictatorship. We have a problem with people seeing Ms. Scott from England, thinking her skirt is a kilt and getting angry when she claims she can't play the bagpipe.
- averros 7y ago
  Totalitarians have used anarchists to achieve their goals in the past. Anarchists themselves may believe they're fighting the Man, but they're just being useful idiots. When the general populace gets fed up with anarchist antics and rioting they start clamoring for tougher law enforcement (and stronger leaders). That's when totalitarians come in.
- lukifer 7y ago
  No dispute. Obviously decades of anti-Soviet propaganda (which does encapsulate many legitimate critiques) have muddled the conceptual landscape, both in terms of oversimplification, and in emotional charge. And, we have significant status quo bias regarding our particular neoliberal form of capitalism; you can't tell a fish about water. Still, even correcting for those historical factors, I think every -ism, or school of thought, suffers from similar problems in subjective perception: it's easy to find nuance and diversity of opinion if one looks for it, and equally easy to find bad actors, tribalist talking points, sloppy thinking, etc, if one looks for it. > We have a problem with people seeing Ms. Scott from England, thinking her skirt is a kilt and getting angry when she claims she can't play the bagpipe. :)