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> Fen Labalme did confirm Stallman's claim, but could not find the email; remember this is in the days of backups on 9-track tapes. Ah, good to know, thanks!

> Fen Labalme did confirm Stallman's claim, but could not find the email; remember this is in the days of backups on 9-track tapes. Ah, good to know, thanks! > This is true in a very limited way, but by itself it is a very misleading partial truth. Stallman gave Gosling credit for Gosmacs, not for EMACS. > Stallman had been working on EMACS on ITS on the PDP-10 for years before Gosling started writing his version, but the inception of EMACS was, as I understand it, a collaboration between Stallman and Steele. Gosling's Emacs wasn't even the second Emacs; Multics Emacs was Bernie Greenberg's reimplementation of the PDP-10 EMACS Stallman was the maintainer of, and it was the first Emacs to use Lisp as its scripting language, which is where Gosling got the idea. EINE, ZWEI, and Lisp-Machine Emacs also preceded Gosmacs. I'd forgotten about the PDP-10 and Guy Steele.

trn 7y ago
Multics Emacs was the second Emacs to be implemented in Lisp, not the first. The first was Lisp Machine Emacs, known as EINE, (EINE Is Not Emacs) from 1977, while Multics Emacs is from 1978. (See also rms’ acknowledgement in the footnotes of the transcript of his speech to the International Lisp Conference of 28-OCT-2002.)
- kragen 7y ago
  Thank you for the corrections!
  - trn 7y ago
    I got it wrong too, when I answered a similar question, referencing rms' original speech. Unfortunately, his correction didn't seem to spread as far or as quickly as the original quote.
trn 7y ago
Also see https://lobste.rs/s/uwvpl1/110_days_early_multics_emacs_history#c_bvqlgp https://lobste.rs/s/uwvpl1/110_days_early_multics_emacs_hist... if you'd like an easy way to use Multics Emacs.