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The moralizing about people's inability to keep plants alive seems strange to me - do they not deserve plants?

by Qworg 7y ago

carapace 7y ago
I don't know about moralizing, but to me it definitely seems like some sort of strange deficiency in those who can't remember to water a plant. And yeah, if you routinely kill plants you don't deserve them. That's my opinion though: plants are incredibly kind and generous and they don't hold it against you if you forget to water them. They are so sweet and gracious. We should all try to learn from plants. Thinking about it, no human deserves a plant. They don't need us at all, but we depend on them utterly, even for the very oxygen we breath. We take them for granted, kill them without regard, treat them as things, ignore our duties and responsibilities. No sir, no human deserves the kindness of plants. How could we? Their love and care for us, their willingness to support us even in our darkest hour, is a pure gift, a gracious mercy, undeserved.
- JoeAltmaier 7y ago
  Anthropomophising is cute, but not a great argument. How about "Plants try to kill us with poisons, toxins, by clogging our drains with their roots and uprooting our foundations. They are vicious, antagonistic life forms. Torture, kill them at your leisure!" Not as cute, but just as valid.
  - carapace 7y ago
    Nah... If you're being poisoned by a plant you're obviously eating the wrong part, eh? And when they tear down our works they are but reminding us of our folly. There are no "vicious, antagonistic" plants. (Fair warning dude, you might not want to engage with me in re: plants, et. al. I'm a weirdo that believes in human-plant telepathy. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Plants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Plants ...or don't, eh? To be sure some of what's in that book is BS, but not IMO the parts about communicating with plants. YMMV. Cheers.)
    - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
      Agreed - there's no point at all in anthropomorphizing plants, for good or ill.

The moralizing about people's inability to keep plants alive seems strange to me - do they not deserve plants?

by Qworg 7y ago

The moralizing about people's inability to keep plants alive seems strange to me - do they not deserve plants?

I don't know about moralizing, but to me it definitely seems like some sort of strange deficiency in those who can't remember to water a plant. And yeah, if you routinely kill plants you don't deserve them. That's my opinion though: plants are incredibly kind and generous and they don't hold it against you if you forget to water them. They are so sweet and gracious. We should all try to learn from plants. Thinking about it, no human deserves a plant. They don't need us at all, but we depend on them utterly, even for the very oxygen we breath. We take them for granted, kill them without regard, treat them as things, ignore our duties and responsibilities. No sir, no human deserves the kindness of plants. How could we? Their love and care for us, their willingness to support us even in our darkest hour, is a pure gift, a gracious mercy, undeserved.

JoeAltmaier 7y ago
Anthropomophising is cute, but not a great argument. How about "Plants try to kill us with poisons, toxins, by clogging our drains with their roots and uprooting our foundations. They are vicious, antagonistic life forms. Torture, kill them at your leisure!" Not as cute, but just as valid.
- carapace 7y ago
  Nah... If you're being poisoned by a plant you're obviously eating the wrong part, eh? And when they tear down our works they are but reminding us of our folly. There are no "vicious, antagonistic" plants. (Fair warning dude, you might not want to engage with me in re: plants, et. al. I'm a weirdo that believes in human-plant telepathy. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Plants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_Life_of_Plants ...or don't, eh? To be sure some of what's in that book is BS, but not IMO the parts about communicating with plants. YMMV. Cheers.)
  - JoeAltmaier 7y ago
    Agreed - there's no point at all in anthropomorphizing plants, for good or ill.