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I don't disagree but it's not just Google. Apple is doing the same thing. In fact agressively with their new login system that they require that if you support

I don't disagree but it's not just Google. Apple is doing the same thing. In fact agressively with their new login system that they require that if you support any 3rd party system you must support "Sign in with Apple" https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#sign-in-with-apple https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#sig... AFAIK Google has no such requirements for apps on Android. As more and more people use "Sign in with Apple" it will end up being the same issue. If Apple locks your account they'll ruin your life. I generally use neither. I don't sign into things with Google nor Apple nor Facebook. The exception is I do sign into a few dev related things with github but only of they are related to my github account (example, Travis CI). I also have my own domain as I learned the hard way in the 90s that losing your email address to your ISP is no fun.

briandear 7y ago
An app that exclusively offers third party sign in.. not all apps. Apple is forcing choice: it isn’t going to allow an app that only allows Google for sign in (and not email.) That’s a win. Apple is saying that you can’t only offer Google sign in. If you allow standard email/password you don’t have to allow Sign In with Apple. Apple says: “either allow normal sign in or, if you only allow 3rd party, then one of the choices should be Apple. Basically Apple says: you are required to offer choices and you can’t force users to only use Facebook/Google. A big difference and a big win for choice.
rootusrootus 7y ago
I agree that maintaining some independence from a central provider with little accountability is a Good Idea(tm). But Apple is far less dangerous than Google. Partly because you're actually a customer to begin with, rather than just a data source. And partly because there are well-known ways to get ahold of humans at Apple, one of which is to walk into the local Apple Store.

briandear 7y ago

An app that exclusively offers third party sign in.. not all apps. Apple is forcing choice: it isn’t going to allow an app that only allows Google for sign in (and not email.) That’s a win. Apple is saying that you can’t only offer Google sign in. If you allow standard email/password you don’t have to allow Sign In with Apple. Apple says: “either allow normal sign in or, if you only allow 3rd party, then one of the choices should be Apple. Basically Apple says: you are required to offer choices and you can’t force users to only use Facebook/Google. A big difference and a big win for choice.

rootusrootus 7y ago

I agree that maintaining some independence from a central provider with little accountability is a Good Idea(tm). But Apple is far less dangerous than Google. Partly because you're actually a customer to begin with, rather than just a data source. And partly because there are well-known ways to get ahold of humans at Apple, one of which is to walk into the local Apple Store.