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The person in the bug post lost access to their email address. Just think of how many services you have tied into your email address. How many of those accounts

The person in the bug post lost access to their email address. Just think of how many services you have tied into your email address. How many of those accounts would allow you to recover without email access? By having G Suite and your own domain, you get to port that domain to another email provider if something bad did happen with Google.

mcv 7y ago
But how is that different from simply having your own domain and sending email for that domain to your GMail box, and redirecting it somewhere else once you need to get rid of GMail?
- buckminster 7y ago
  But how do you send email from your domain? Last time I looked (a few years ago admittedly) you could set a reply to address but your email still clearly came from your gmail address.
  - mcv 7y ago
    I'm not using GMail's web interface. My mailreader (Apple Mail) allows me to select from which address I'm mailing. Admittedly this doesn't work from my mobile GMail app, but I don't send a lot of work-related email (which my alternate address is for) from my smartphone.
    - tomatocracy 7y ago
      Admittedly I haven’t used gmail for years now but from what I remember when I used to do this this is half right. If you change the From address in gmail, it will add a ‘Sender:’ header with your gmail account on it. Some clients will show that combination as the email being from ‘X on behalf of Y’ where Y is the from address and X the sender address and some will send replies, especially bounces, to your sender address. It may also set off some spam traps. I think it might also have required some form of verification that you have access to the address in question. If you want to send from a different address without the sender header being set to your gmail account, I think you have to have Gsuite.
      - jpindar 7y ago
        I just looked at the headers from some emails I sent this way. My gmail address does not appear there and both the <From> and Return-path are my domain address.
        tomatocracy 7y ago
        Thanks. Looks like they fixed this quite a while ago and now either you can verify an account after which it will accept your From header (and the web and app UIs let you select that) or, if you haven’t verified the address then if you send an email through their SMTP servers it will rewrite the From as your gmail address and sets a new X-Google-Original-From header to the address you put in the email originally.
    - jpindar 7y ago
      I just tested it and it does work from the Android Gmail app.
      - mcv 7y ago
        How? I just checked and couldn't find it.
        jpindar 7y ago
        You have to have added the other email addresses from your Gmail web page first, under Settings, Accounts and Import, Send Mail As. It will ask you for the server address and credentials etc. Then when you compose a message from either the website or the Android app, your From address is a dropdown containing the addresses you set up. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en
  - jpindar 7y ago
    I have it set up so that Gmail sends the mail through my domain's server. The <from> field is my domain address, and my gmail address does not appear anywhere in the header. I've had it this way for a long time, but I believe it was optional and it's also possible to only read the mail from the domain but send it via gmail.
  - andrewf 7y ago
    If you have GSuite you@yourdomain.com is your gmail address. yourdomain.com's MX records will be pointed to Google. This is different to the various techniques, such as IMAP/POP and forwarding, used to get them@theirdomain.com email (actually hosted elsewhere) into a theirgoogleacct@gmail.com mailbox
- oliwarner 7y ago
  The biggest thing you're missing out on is Gmail's spam filtering.
  - juliangoldsmith 7y ago
    If you get a lot of spam, you can always use something like SpamAssasin.
    - oliwarner 7y ago
      You can't afford the Lamborghini? Here, try this Fiat Panda. They're both Italian cars! Hyperbole but not by far. Google's filter is trained on billions of messages a day, tuned by their own systems and by other users. It's the single best selling point for hosted email. Nothing compares when you've got that sort of volume. I've had about three spam come through in the past year and they've all been personally addressed, non-bot but unsolicited marketing emails. I have three catch-all domains in this account. We used to run our one domain through a passthrough service (at the cost of hundreds of pounds a year). Gmail was always right, easier to correct and by the point you're paying per-user (not per address), much much cheaper.
ganeshkrishnan 7y ago
Google is also a domain provider
appleflaxen 7y ago
But you still lose access to your entire life up to that point. Sure, you can start to rebuild without changing your email address, but it's no less catastrophic when you get locked out.

mcv 7y ago

But how is that different from simply having your own domain and sending email for that domain to your GMail box, and redirecting it somewhere else once you need to get rid of GMail?

buckminster 7y ago
But how do you send email from your domain? Last time I looked (a few years ago admittedly) you could set a reply to address but your email still clearly came from your gmail address.
- mcv 7y ago
  I'm not using GMail's web interface. My mailreader (Apple Mail) allows me to select from which address I'm mailing. Admittedly this doesn't work from my mobile GMail app, but I don't send a lot of work-related email (which my alternate address is for) from my smartphone.
  - tomatocracy 7y ago
    Admittedly I haven’t used gmail for years now but from what I remember when I used to do this this is half right. If you change the From address in gmail, it will add a ‘Sender:’ header with your gmail account on it. Some clients will show that combination as the email being from ‘X on behalf of Y’ where Y is the from address and X the sender address and some will send replies, especially bounces, to your sender address. It may also set off some spam traps. I think it might also have required some form of verification that you have access to the address in question. If you want to send from a different address without the sender header being set to your gmail account, I think you have to have Gsuite.
    - jpindar 7y ago
      I just looked at the headers from some emails I sent this way. My gmail address does not appear there and both the <From> and Return-path are my domain address.
      - tomatocracy 7y ago
        Thanks. Looks like they fixed this quite a while ago and now either you can verify an account after which it will accept your From header (and the web and app UIs let you select that) or, if you haven’t verified the address then if you send an email through their SMTP servers it will rewrite the From as your gmail address and sets a new X-Google-Original-From header to the address you put in the email originally.
  - jpindar 7y ago
    I just tested it and it does work from the Android Gmail app.
    - mcv 7y ago
      How? I just checked and couldn't find it.
      - jpindar 7y ago
        You have to have added the other email addresses from your Gmail web page first, under Settings, Accounts and Import, Send Mail As. It will ask you for the server address and credentials etc. Then when you compose a message from either the website or the Android app, your From address is a dropdown containing the addresses you set up. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en
- jpindar 7y ago
  I have it set up so that Gmail sends the mail through my domain's server. The <from> field is my domain address, and my gmail address does not appear anywhere in the header. I've had it this way for a long time, but I believe it was optional and it's also possible to only read the mail from the domain but send it via gmail.
- andrewf 7y ago
  If you have GSuite you@yourdomain.com is your gmail address. yourdomain.com's MX records will be pointed to Google. This is different to the various techniques, such as IMAP/POP and forwarding, used to get them@theirdomain.com email (actually hosted elsewhere) into a theirgoogleacct@gmail.com mailbox
oliwarner 7y ago
The biggest thing you're missing out on is Gmail's spam filtering.
- juliangoldsmith 7y ago
  If you get a lot of spam, you can always use something like SpamAssasin.
  - oliwarner 7y ago
    You can't afford the Lamborghini? Here, try this Fiat Panda. They're both Italian cars! Hyperbole but not by far. Google's filter is trained on billions of messages a day, tuned by their own systems and by other users. It's the single best selling point for hosted email. Nothing compares when you've got that sort of volume. I've had about three spam come through in the past year and they've all been personally addressed, non-bot but unsolicited marketing emails. I have three catch-all domains in this account. We used to run our one domain through a passthrough service (at the cost of hundreds of pounds a year). Gmail was always right, easier to correct and by the point you're paying per-user (not per address), much much cheaper.

ganeshkrishnan 7y ago

Google is also a domain provider

appleflaxen 7y ago

But you still lose access to your entire life up to that point. Sure, you can start to rebuild without changing your email address, but it's no less catastrophic when you get locked out.