> Succession should be a liberty afforded to all people. There is no excuse for forcing a group of people to live under a political system they disapprove of.

> Succession should be a liberty afforded to all people. There is no excuse for forcing a group of people to live under a political system they disapprove of. Pro independent movements are quite against your first paragraph, according to discussions regarding either vall d’Aran or Tabarnia (two sub-catalonia independence movements, one based in history/culture, the other one in both jest (a la pastafarism) and anti-independence opinions.