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"The rest of Spaniards had been called all kind of nasty things from this people, from fascists to thiefs, traitors, pigs, dumb, violators, abusers and even dir

"The rest of Spaniards had been called all kind of nasty things from this people, from fascists to thiefs, traitors, pigs, dumb, violators, abusers and even dirty people that does not wash themselves." You could say the same things are said from the 'other side' of the debate, I'm sure people say all these things from both sides, you cannot control everyone on such a big movements/issues. What I'm sure is that I haven't seen any leader say all that adjectives to anyone. "Not to mention the anti-David-Star that where in fact the yellow ribbons". Well... 'anti-david-star' what a nice way to describe the same ribbons (with different color) that people wear on the world cancer day. The independence movement has always talked about the State/Government not letting people decide. It's not about hating someone because they think different than you. It's about an exercise of democracy.

pvaldes 7y ago
> You cannot control everyone on such a big movements/issues. What I'm sure is that I haven't seen any leader say all that adjectives to anyone. Please do not dare try again to take us for idiots. We are not talking of anonymous people, we are talking of all main independentist leaders acting as victims and light beings whereas saying things like those of spaniards: "Scavengers, vipers, hyenas. Beasts with human form, however, that distil hate. A disturbed, nauseating hatred, like moldy dentures, against everything the tongue represents. They are here among us. They are disgusted by any expression of Catalanness... Beasts have names and surnames. We all know somebody" Not, is not the nazi party in 1933, is President Torra spreading love in 2012. Another example: "Mrs. María Llanos de Luna devotes more time to her hairstyles than to the culture of the country where she lives... No, it is not natural to speak Spanish in Catalonia" Not to mention this silly 2010 video from CIU party: "Spain steals from us". Has been 10 years hearing this victimism all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QdyOSgbIVY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QdyOSgbIVY If you had being harassed for not-bearing a cancer ribbon, please don't hesitate to tell us your experience.
wbronitsky 7y ago
The GP manages to talk about facts surrounding the issue, yet you continue to attack them with little substance. You don't provide counter examples, you simply continue to attack. This helps no one find more truth. Please stop.

pvaldes 7y ago

> You cannot control everyone on such a big movements/issues. What I'm sure is that I haven't seen any leader say all that adjectives to anyone. Please do not dare try again to take us for idiots. We are not talking of anonymous people, we are talking of all main independentist leaders acting as victims and light beings whereas saying things like those of spaniards: "Scavengers, vipers, hyenas. Beasts with human form, however, that distil hate. A disturbed, nauseating hatred, like moldy dentures, against everything the tongue represents. They are here among us. They are disgusted by any expression of Catalanness... Beasts have names and surnames. We all know somebody" Not, is not the nazi party in 1933, is President Torra spreading love in 2012. Another example: "Mrs. María Llanos de Luna devotes more time to her hairstyles than to the culture of the country where she lives... No, it is not natural to speak Spanish in Catalonia" Not to mention this silly 2010 video from CIU party: "Spain steals from us". Has been 10 years hearing this victimism all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QdyOSgbIVY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QdyOSgbIVY If you had being harassed for not-bearing a cancer ribbon, please don't hesitate to tell us your experience.

wbronitsky 7y ago

The GP manages to talk about facts surrounding the issue, yet you continue to attack them with little substance. You don't provide counter examples, you simply continue to attack. This helps no one find more truth. Please stop.