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I don't care what particular business strategy or operational process makes this happens. This is Piracy. This is what Copyright was originally conceived to fig

by eecc 7y ago

I don't care what particular business strategy or operational process makes this happens. This is Piracy. This is what Copyright was originally conceived to fight against. Amazon should be slapped with the same RIAA/MPAA-style grotesquely theatrical / existential threat fines that random individuals were treated with. Otherwise is the same old canis canem non est

Nasrudith 7y ago
No, piracy is if Amazon raids mercantile ships for their goods. If we can just start willy nilly assigning offenses with worse connotations then what is to stop absursity like referring to bouncing checks as treason or delinquent parking tickets as child molestation? Hell many of the "counterfeits" are really unauthorized production because they were made by the same factories they outsourced to. Counterfeiting implies reproduction and presenting it as the original. When they gave the specs themselves to the manufacturer that isn't a reproduction. The brand holders themselves have undermined the meaning of counterfeiting by not being the manufacturer. Granted the ethical thing to do is to launch their own "knock off" brand. Besides those rates only work against those massively legally outgunned - they are bullying rates. It isn't a solution but a sign that the system is massively messed up. The whole point of it is consistent enforcement based upon facts and rules and to not be might makes right.
- eecc 7y ago
  Uhm, oh sorry! I apologize profusely if I might have hurt anyone's feelings concerning the meticulous use of unambiguously well defined terms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#"Piracy" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#"Piracy... Dude, get over it (and yourself.)
carapace 7y ago
Seriously. Remember when the RIAA sued a 12-year-old girl for using Kazaa? http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/09/music.swap.settlement/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/09/music.swap.settl... QUOTE: LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A day after being sued for illegally sharing music files through the Internet, a 12-year-old girl has settled with the Recording Industry Association of America. She's the first of 261 defendants to settle their lawsuits with the association. Brianna LaHara agreed Tuesday to pay $2,000, or about $2 per song she allegedly shared. "I am sorry for what I have done," LaHara said. "I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love." The suit claimed LaHara had been offering more than 1,000 songs on the Internet, using the Kazaa file-sharing service. The RIAA said it was pleased with the settlement. There are 260 cases still pending. "We're trying to send a strong message that you are not anonymous when you participate in peer-to-peer file-sharing and that the illegal distribution of copyrighted music has consequences," said Mitch Bainwol, RIAA chairman and chief executive officer. "And as this case illustrates, parents need to be aware of what their children are doing on their computers."

by eecc 7y ago

Nasrudith 7y ago

No, piracy is if Amazon raids mercantile ships for their goods. If we can just start willy nilly assigning offenses with worse connotations then what is to stop absursity like referring to bouncing checks as treason or delinquent parking tickets as child molestation? Hell many of the "counterfeits" are really unauthorized production because they were made by the same factories they outsourced to. Counterfeiting implies reproduction and presenting it as the original. When they gave the specs themselves to the manufacturer that isn't a reproduction. The brand holders themselves have undermined the meaning of counterfeiting by not being the manufacturer. Granted the ethical thing to do is to launch their own "knock off" brand. Besides those rates only work against those massively legally outgunned - they are bullying rates. It isn't a solution but a sign that the system is massively messed up. The whole point of it is consistent enforcement based upon facts and rules and to not be might makes right.

eecc 7y ago
Uhm, oh sorry! I apologize profusely if I might have hurt anyone's feelings concerning the meticulous use of unambiguously well defined terms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#"Piracy" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#"Piracy... Dude, get over it (and yourself.)

carapace 7y ago

Seriously. Remember when the RIAA sued a 12-year-old girl for using Kazaa? http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/09/music.swap.settlement/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/09/music.swap.settl... QUOTE: LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A day after being sued for illegally sharing music files through the Internet, a 12-year-old girl has settled with the Recording Industry Association of America. She's the first of 261 defendants to settle their lawsuits with the association. Brianna LaHara agreed Tuesday to pay $2,000, or about $2 per song she allegedly shared. "I am sorry for what I have done," LaHara said. "I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love." The suit claimed LaHara had been offering more than 1,000 songs on the Internet, using the Kazaa file-sharing service. The RIAA said it was pleased with the settlement. There are 260 cases still pending. "We're trying to send a strong message that you are not anonymous when you participate in peer-to-peer file-sharing and that the illegal distribution of copyrighted music has consequences," said Mitch Bainwol, RIAA chairman and chief executive officer. "And as this case illustrates, parents need to be aware of what their children are doing on their computers."