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I do not believe the actual implementation will be so severe. Every major IT company in China, that interacts with the outside world, has a VPN to circumvent b

I do not believe the actual implementation will be so severe. Every major IT company in China, that interacts with the outside world, has a VPN to circumvent blocking and uses the VPN heavily.

novok 7y ago
And the article says, that won't be legal anymore. And it would be enforced. No more real encryption in china anymore.
- shp0ngle 7y ago
  I do not believe it, as it will decimate all their IT industry. The communist party is embedded and makes money from the industry. They do not want to see it blow up. Alibaba, Tencent, Baidu, JD, all would just die.
  - random42 7y ago
    China/CCP doesn't care.
  - mytailorisrich 7y ago
    There does not seem to be any ban on companies VPNs. They don't need to and that would weaken protection against external attacks. I think the aim, if I understand it as it is not very clear overall, is rather than government agencies may access the company's infrastructure (VPNs are irrelevant).
    - shusson 7y ago
      > rather than government agencies may access the company's infrastructure I think the law is closer to "government agencies may access any of the company's information".
      - mytailorisrich 7y ago
        My understanding is that the law is that government agencies may access companies' infrastructure to conduct security and compliance audits. The worry is that this may be used to access companies' data.
  - lallysingh 7y ago
    Look, their debt bubble is ready to pop as-is. The collapse was already inevitable. With the economy slowing down and the trade war, it's going to come fast. This is how they contain the damage. Plus the party controls the (enormous) population even more closely during the rapid contraction.
  - shadofx 7y ago
    Best-case scenario if you want to consolidate power: Dirty westerners blew up our IT industry to maintain dominance!
- apk17 7y ago
  How is that supposed to fly? When they look inside the VPN I'm just using, they'll see git-ssh traffic to a bitbucket server, and are none the wiser. (And: Seriously, HN, recaptcha on the login dialog? Have you any idea how hard that is on tor users?)
mstaoru 7y ago
You can still use your VPN, just submit private keys and responsible person's info first.

I do not believe the actual implementation will be so severe. Every major IT company in China, that interacts with the outside world, has a VPN to circumvent blocking and uses the VPN heavily.

novok 7y ago

And the article says, that won't be legal anymore. And it would be enforced. No more real encryption in china anymore.

shp0ngle 7y ago
I do not believe it, as it will decimate all their IT industry. The communist party is embedded and makes money from the industry. They do not want to see it blow up. Alibaba, Tencent, Baidu, JD, all would just die.
- random42 7y ago
  China/CCP doesn't care.
- mytailorisrich 7y ago
  There does not seem to be any ban on companies VPNs. They don't need to and that would weaken protection against external attacks. I think the aim, if I understand it as it is not very clear overall, is rather than government agencies may access the company's infrastructure (VPNs are irrelevant).
  - shusson 7y ago
    > rather than government agencies may access the company's infrastructure I think the law is closer to "government agencies may access any of the company's information".
    - mytailorisrich 7y ago
      My understanding is that the law is that government agencies may access companies' infrastructure to conduct security and compliance audits. The worry is that this may be used to access companies' data.
- lallysingh 7y ago
  Look, their debt bubble is ready to pop as-is. The collapse was already inevitable. With the economy slowing down and the trade war, it's going to come fast. This is how they contain the damage. Plus the party controls the (enormous) population even more closely during the rapid contraction.
- shadofx 7y ago
  Best-case scenario if you want to consolidate power: Dirty westerners blew up our IT industry to maintain dominance!
apk17 7y ago
How is that supposed to fly? When they look inside the VPN I'm just using, they'll see git-ssh traffic to a bitbucket server, and are none the wiser. (And: Seriously, HN, recaptcha on the login dialog? Have you any idea how hard that is on tor users?)

mstaoru 7y ago

You can still use your VPN, just submit private keys and responsible person's info first.