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What's the ugly part? The article talks about successful and unsuccessful GoFundMe campaigns. Is the ugly part that some deplorables got millions from other dep

by viking1992 7y ago

What's the ugly part? The article talks about successful and unsuccessful GoFundMe campaigns. Is the ugly part that some deplorables got millions from other deplorables? I deem the title click bait.

HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
Agree, I do. I feel like the "White Savior Inferiority Complex" quote might explain a bit.
danso 7y ago
One of the "ugly" parts is how some things can go viral, and much more serious things don't at all, and it can feel like a bizarre system of faux meritocracy: > What’s wrong with you also influences whether you score big with medical crowdfunding, according to the University of Washington at Bothell medical anthropologist Nora Kenworthy and the media scholar Lauren Berliner, who have been studying the subject since 2013. Successful campaigns tend to focus on onetime fixes (a new prosthetic, say) rather than chronic, complicated diagnoses like Laila’s. Terminal cases and geriatric care are also tough to fundraise for, as are stigmatized conditions such as HIV and addiction- or obesity-related problems... > ...As Laila’s GoFundMe sputtered out, Richard grew to resent the people raising tens of thousands for sick pets. At his lowest moments, he wondered whether the campaign would have been more successful if Laila had been a cat. > Richard’s bitter feelings reminded me of something Berliner had observed when we spoke: “There’s a lot of secrecy and shame around the ones that don’t receive funding. If it’s a way to perform need, how must it feel to put yourself out there and not receive anything in return?” That society and human nature seems to pay more attention to quick fixes and happy surface story is "ugly", though that's something that has long been a facet of society well before GoFundMe.
kraig911 7y ago
It can get ugly. I did a gofundme to raise money for my daughter's stem cell treatment. Half my extended family doesn't talk to me anymore. I'm sorry I was short 20k in savings and couldn't figure it out on my own guys but I had to swallow my pride and do whatever it took.
- danans 7y ago
  > I'm sorry I was short 20k in savings and couldn't figure it out on my own guys but I had to swallow my pride and do whatever it took. You did what you had to do given the realities, but I'm sorry and ashamed that as a society we put you in that position.
- hkmurakami 7y ago
  Do they not talk to you because they gave you money? Or because somehow you bright the family shame for asking others for help? Or something else?
  - kraig911 7y ago
    They don't talk to me because to them I was begging for money.
    - EdwardDiego 7y ago
      I'm sorry to hear that mate, but I totally get where you're coming from - pride is nothing compared to your daughter's life.
    - Intermernet 7y ago
      For what it's worth, I think you did the right thing. I know I would have done the same thing in your place.
- climb_stealth 7y ago
  That is horrible! Families can be really nasty like that. For whatever a random comment on the internet is worth, I believe you did the right thing. And people who put this above the life of your daughter are not worth associating with.
- sysbin 7y ago
  You did the right thing. Family is sometimes not even as good as friendship and we're conditioned all the time to think otherwise.
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EdwardDiego 7y ago
Deplorables? Are we doing Hillary Clinton references or something? Hey, downvoters, it was a genuine question, if I've missed something, please let me know. The term deplorable is rather odd, and I can only recall it being used in in recent pop culture by Hillary Clinton wrt Trump supporters.
- dodobirdlord 7y ago
  The term has entered the popular lexicon since the 2016 election and is commonly used to refer to the subset of Trump supporters who also broadly agree with his more odious statements.

What's the ugly part? The article talks about successful and unsuccessful GoFundMe campaigns. Is the ugly part that some deplorables got millions from other deplorables? I deem the title click bait.

HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago

Agree, I do. I feel like the "White Savior Inferiority Complex" quote might explain a bit.

danso 7y ago

One of the "ugly" parts is how some things can go viral, and much more serious things don't at all, and it can feel like a bizarre system of faux meritocracy: > What’s wrong with you also influences whether you score big with medical crowdfunding, according to the University of Washington at Bothell medical anthropologist Nora Kenworthy and the media scholar Lauren Berliner, who have been studying the subject since 2013. Successful campaigns tend to focus on onetime fixes (a new prosthetic, say) rather than chronic, complicated diagnoses like Laila’s. Terminal cases and geriatric care are also tough to fundraise for, as are stigmatized conditions such as HIV and addiction- or obesity-related problems... > ...As Laila’s GoFundMe sputtered out, Richard grew to resent the people raising tens of thousands for sick pets. At his lowest moments, he wondered whether the campaign would have been more successful if Laila had been a cat. > Richard’s bitter feelings reminded me of something Berliner had observed when we spoke: “There’s a lot of secrecy and shame around the ones that don’t receive funding. If it’s a way to perform need, how must it feel to put yourself out there and not receive anything in return?” That society and human nature seems to pay more attention to quick fixes and happy surface story is "ugly", though that's something that has long been a facet of society well before GoFundMe.

kraig911 7y ago

It can get ugly. I did a gofundme to raise money for my daughter's stem cell treatment. Half my extended family doesn't talk to me anymore. I'm sorry I was short 20k in savings and couldn't figure it out on my own guys but I had to swallow my pride and do whatever it took.

danans 7y ago
> I'm sorry I was short 20k in savings and couldn't figure it out on my own guys but I had to swallow my pride and do whatever it took. You did what you had to do given the realities, but I'm sorry and ashamed that as a society we put you in that position.
hkmurakami 7y ago
Do they not talk to you because they gave you money? Or because somehow you bright the family shame for asking others for help? Or something else?
- kraig911 7y ago
  They don't talk to me because to them I was begging for money.
  - EdwardDiego 7y ago
    I'm sorry to hear that mate, but I totally get where you're coming from - pride is nothing compared to your daughter's life.
  - Intermernet 7y ago
    For what it's worth, I think you did the right thing. I know I would have done the same thing in your place.
climb_stealth 7y ago
That is horrible! Families can be really nasty like that. For whatever a random comment on the internet is worth, I believe you did the right thing. And people who put this above the life of your daughter are not worth associating with.
sysbin 7y ago
You did the right thing. Family is sometimes not even as good as friendship and we're conditioned all the time to think otherwise.
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EdwardDiego 7y ago

Deplorables? Are we doing Hillary Clinton references or something? Hey, downvoters, it was a genuine question, if I've missed something, please let me know. The term deplorable is rather odd, and I can only recall it being used in in recent pop culture by Hillary Clinton wrt Trump supporters.

dodobirdlord 7y ago
The term has entered the popular lexicon since the 2016 election and is commonly used to refer to the subset of Trump supporters who also broadly agree with his more odious statements.