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Busses and delivery trucks are the most noisy and polluting! That doesn’t seem like the panacea you suggest.
by electric_muse 7y ago
Busses and delivery trucks are the most noisy and polluting! That doesn’t seem like the panacea you suggest.
- komaromy 7y agoOn a per-unit basis, sure. There are way more cars than buses or delivery trucks though.
- erik_seaberg 7y agoIf I can't use my car, a lot more things need to be delivered. Anything I can't carry for half a mile, anything for which I'd be robbed …
- megaremote 7y agoSo you will consume less to? Another bonus.
- abdullahkhalids 7y ago1. When everybody is walking outside, instead of transiting through cars, it is a lot harder for pedestrians to be robbed. Also, police actually start caring more about pedestrian safety when so many people are walking. Walkable neighbourhoods can be a lot safer than the safest car-friendly neighbourhoods, with the right system. 2. As for carrying, based on my experience of living in a walkable neighbourhood where thousands of people lived within a kilometer of the central shopping area, a lot of people would bring carts that they would push their groceries home in. If you can push a small wheeled grocery cart through the total 100 meter aisles of the grocery store, then you can push a big wheeled cart the 1000 meter to your house on the sidewalk. Given that I often saw 80 year olds doing that, most healthy people should also be able to do it, no problem.
- adrianN 7y agoMany things could also be delivered with cargo bikes for the last mile with trucks only delivering to neighborhood depots.
- phoobahr 7y agoDelivery truck volume scales with demand and has pretty upfront costs. Buss volume scales with funding and political will with upfront costs and delayed realized benefits. Generally supply is outstripped by demand. Personal conveyance volume does not appear to have any of these limiting factors. And has terrible demonstrated density.
- whorleater 7y agoPer vehicle yes, per capita no.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> Busses and delivery trucks are the most noisy and polluting Once private cars are off the road, busses and trucks would spend less time in traffic. That increases their economic yield, which in turn, makes a gradual electrification mandate economically feasible.
- pmoriarty 7y agoElectric and hybrid buses are much less noisy and pollute much less than their exclusively-fossil-fuel-burning counterparts.
- megaremote 7y agoSure, if you compare 1 to 1. But you have 100s to 1 on any street. A 100 cars are lot more noisy and polluting than one bus. https://www.iwillride.org/what-200-people-look-like-driving-cars-vs-riding-bikes-bus-and-light-rail/ https://www.iwillride.org/what-200-people-look-like-driving-...