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"This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets." Which is the case in many countries including mine. When they enacted the law I was still a youngste

"This is like forcing motor cycle riders to wear helmets." Which is the case in many countries including mine. When they enacted the law I was still a youngster driving his motorcycle, constantly speeding and doing those things people do in their 20s. I hated that law, then a few accidents and fractures later I realized that the "stupid" law probably saved my parents from the horror of outliving me. I'm also for 100% freedom of choice but it must not impact others and must be accompanied by 100% information about the consequences. Back to the topic, if I drink shitty sugary drinks for years becoming fat and one day I get a fatal stroke, that's an error that can't be undone, so I'm all for limitation of freedom in this and similar cases.

noir_lord 7y ago
It's weird, I rode motorbikes off road as a teenager and wouldn't have dreamed of not wearing a helmet, heavy boots and gloves etc. Just bought a new bike to commute to new job (starting on a 125 and working my way up since not been on a bike for 20 odd years) and while a helmet was thrown in it'll be the first upgrade after proper jacket/pants. I still don't get why it's even a debate, I've cracked two bicycle helmets from accidents that weren't my faults in impacts that without them would have been vastly worse.
- throwaway07Ju19 7y ago
  This is like saying you don't get why some men don't always wear condoms. For some, riding without a helmet is vastly more pleasurable and thrilling.
  - Ididntdothis 7y ago
    this is something I don't get. How is getting hit by bugs and rocks more pleasurable?
    - cornstalks 7y ago
      My favorite is getting throat-punched by a big juicy bug at 70 miles per hour. But yeah, getting one of those in the face (and near/in the eye especially) is something you do not want to happen.
jaclaz 7y ago
Only as anecdata, I got my first motorcycle at 14 and that was several years before any Law made helmets compulsory. My dad (who also was a motorcyclist) when giving me the bike told me that the helmet and gloves were the keys to start the engine: "no helmet, no gloves, you cannot start the bike." <- and that last character was definitely a full stop or period. A lot of friends didn't have the same imprimatur, and since it was not compulsory, rode happily their bikes without protections, and - even if I always wore the helmet according to the recommendation - I thought several times how futile it was, expecially for short rides/in the city until unfortunately a friend, just turned 19, died in a "stupid" accident, at no more than 30 km/h (he forgot the side stand down and pivoted on it, hitting a curb wiith his head).
- nojvek 7y ago
  In my 20s I was into extreme sports. Motorbikes, skydiving, freediving and the shebang. Just loved the adrenal rush. One of my motorcycle instructors told me “motorbikes are insanely dangerous. They are essentially crotch rockets. Not wearing helmets is a deathwish and I’m pretty sure i’ll outlive you if you ignore the safety. Think about helmets and guards as those extra Mario lives. Your helmet will crack but your brain will be fine.” Sane advice, i’ve cracked multiple helmets. Brain is doing fine.
- StapleHorse 7y ago
  For some reason this was one of the easiest rules from my father that I followed without problem. It felt natural from day 1. And being 15yo you don't normally agree with parents.

noir_lord 7y ago

It's weird, I rode motorbikes off road as a teenager and wouldn't have dreamed of not wearing a helmet, heavy boots and gloves etc. Just bought a new bike to commute to new job (starting on a 125 and working my way up since not been on a bike for 20 odd years) and while a helmet was thrown in it'll be the first upgrade after proper jacket/pants. I still don't get why it's even a debate, I've cracked two bicycle helmets from accidents that weren't my faults in impacts that without them would have been vastly worse.

throwaway07Ju19 7y ago
This is like saying you don't get why some men don't always wear condoms. For some, riding without a helmet is vastly more pleasurable and thrilling.
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  this is something I don't get. How is getting hit by bugs and rocks more pleasurable?
  - cornstalks 7y ago
    My favorite is getting throat-punched by a big juicy bug at 70 miles per hour. But yeah, getting one of those in the face (and near/in the eye especially) is something you do not want to happen.

jaclaz 7y ago

Only as anecdata, I got my first motorcycle at 14 and that was several years before any Law made helmets compulsory. My dad (who also was a motorcyclist) when giving me the bike told me that the helmet and gloves were the keys to start the engine: "no helmet, no gloves, you cannot start the bike." <- and that last character was definitely a full stop or period. A lot of friends didn't have the same imprimatur, and since it was not compulsory, rode happily their bikes without protections, and - even if I always wore the helmet according to the recommendation - I thought several times how futile it was, expecially for short rides/in the city until unfortunately a friend, just turned 19, died in a "stupid" accident, at no more than 30 km/h (he forgot the side stand down and pivoted on it, hitting a curb wiith his head).

nojvek 7y ago
In my 20s I was into extreme sports. Motorbikes, skydiving, freediving and the shebang. Just loved the adrenal rush. One of my motorcycle instructors told me “motorbikes are insanely dangerous. They are essentially crotch rockets. Not wearing helmets is a deathwish and I’m pretty sure i’ll outlive you if you ignore the safety. Think about helmets and guards as those extra Mario lives. Your helmet will crack but your brain will be fine.” Sane advice, i’ve cracked multiple helmets. Brain is doing fine.
StapleHorse 7y ago
For some reason this was one of the easiest rules from my father that I followed without problem. It felt natural from day 1. And being 15yo you don't normally agree with parents.