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What a terrifyingly capitalistic view.

xwdv 7y ago
What’s terrifying about it? That it shatters your previous understanding of the industry or that it implies some medical dystopia? Would you prefer to instead called it a terrifyingly rational view?
- nicoburns 7y ago
  Here in the UK healthcare is seen as a right. Hospitals and recipients of organs don't pay for them, and nobody is making money off of donated bodies. The idea that access to life-saving treatment is based on ability to pay, and that there are corporations making profit at the expense of people's health and well-being is pretty terrifying to me. There's nothing rational about such a system.
  - lotsofpulp 7y ago
    Ability to pay dictates all aspects of life. Whether the individual pays or their country, at the end, no one works for free. That is why poor people in poorer countries than the U.K. don’t have access to life saving treatments. I’m sure even poor people in the U.K. don’t have access to the same care that rich people do.
    - nicoburns 7y ago
      > Ability to pay dictates all aspects of life. Only under capitalism. That's precisely why this is terrifyingly capitalistic. Societies ability to produce dictates all aspects of life. But not necessarily ability to pay. > I’m sure even poor people in the U.K. don’t have access to the same care that rich people do Not if you're really rich (a millionaire). But even rich people in the UK will usually go for the NHS first. The care's pretty good.
      - xwdv 7y ago
        All aspects of life are ultimately dictated by something. If not by the ability to pay, then it will be by other things out of your control or your ability to curry favor with those who can get you what you want. I’d prefer it just be dictated by pay and skip the bullshit.
      - manigandham 7y ago
        That's not what capitalism is. It's an economic system and has absolutely nothing to do with governance, policies, and the greater good.
mybodymychoice 7y ago
You mean like these people in the article who turn donated bodies into cosmetic lip and penis filler?

xwdv 7y ago

What’s terrifying about it? That it shatters your previous understanding of the industry or that it implies some medical dystopia? Would you prefer to instead called it a terrifyingly rational view?

nicoburns 7y ago
Here in the UK healthcare is seen as a right. Hospitals and recipients of organs don't pay for them, and nobody is making money off of donated bodies. The idea that access to life-saving treatment is based on ability to pay, and that there are corporations making profit at the expense of people's health and well-being is pretty terrifying to me. There's nothing rational about such a system.
- lotsofpulp 7y ago
  Ability to pay dictates all aspects of life. Whether the individual pays or their country, at the end, no one works for free. That is why poor people in poorer countries than the U.K. don’t have access to life saving treatments. I’m sure even poor people in the U.K. don’t have access to the same care that rich people do.
  - nicoburns 7y ago
    > Ability to pay dictates all aspects of life. Only under capitalism. That's precisely why this is terrifyingly capitalistic. Societies ability to produce dictates all aspects of life. But not necessarily ability to pay. > I’m sure even poor people in the U.K. don’t have access to the same care that rich people do Not if you're really rich (a millionaire). But even rich people in the UK will usually go for the NHS first. The care's pretty good.
    - xwdv 7y ago
      All aspects of life are ultimately dictated by something. If not by the ability to pay, then it will be by other things out of your control or your ability to curry favor with those who can get you what you want. I’d prefer it just be dictated by pay and skip the bullshit.
    - manigandham 7y ago
      That's not what capitalism is. It's an economic system and has absolutely nothing to do with governance, policies, and the greater good.

mybodymychoice 7y ago

You mean like these people in the article who turn donated bodies into cosmetic lip and penis filler?