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Even more troublesome, IMO. This as a gate to interviews leads to a really uninclusive hiring process.
by zschallz 7y ago
Even more troublesome, IMO. This as a gate to interviews leads to a really uninclusive hiring process.
- LanceH 7y agoPlease state the alternative.
- tyri_kai_psomi 7y agoThe act of dissecting a candidate's qualifications and mapping them to what a company is searching for is always going to come off as appearing to be uninclusive to one group or another unless you are naive to believe every single human being contains the same skill set, current ability, and potential.
- kabdib 7y agoHow is this uninclusive? I'm not arguing, just want to understand your analysis.
- jpdaigle 7y agoAll of these seem to require a significant investment of time before the interview process gets kicked off, which is uninclusive because it biases the hiring process against candidates whose time outside of the office is consumed by taking care of their children. (Stereotypically, it’s borderline age-ism too because candidates in their 30s and 40s are much more likely to have children compared to people in their mid-twenties.)
- throwawaycanada 7y ago>All of these seem to require a significant investment of time before the interview process gets kicked off, which is uninclusive because it biases the hiring process against candidates whose time outside of the office is consumed by taking care of their children. You have to be kidding me. It also is biased against people whose time is spent playing video games or who do nothing at all. Some jobs are meant for people at a certain point in their career. Sometimes you don't get to have everything at the same time. People like you would argue it would be better to shut down hospitals than let doctors work long hours because those long hours might make women not want to do the job.
- ta29391 7y agoThe comment you've responded to is a fine example of "victimhood culture" as defined here: https://heterodoxacademy.org/seizing-means-knowledge-production/ https://heterodoxacademy.org/seizing-means-knowledge-product... HN feels weird tonight.
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- jodrellblank 7y agopeople who cannot spare the time are not the same group as people who choose recreation instead. Some jobs are meant for people at a certain point in their career. That should be determined by their employability, not the state of their personal life. People like you would argue No they wouldn’t; strawpeople don’t argue anything, they just fall over.
- djinnandtonic 7y agoIt filters out anyone without a few hours/days/a week to spend interviewing at your company (those without access to good hardware at home, those with familial or other after hours commitments, etc)
- zelly 7y ago> uninclusive Isn't that the point of a hiring process?
- maxerickson 7y agoIt depends on how you want to understand language. The point of a hiring process is to exclude candidates that are legitimately not suitable for the role. A reasonable contextual interpretation of the grandparent comment is that the hiring process will end up excluding suitable candidates for illegitimate reasons. Whether they should have to slavishly spell this out in a message board comment is a hot topic.
- TeMPOraL 7y agoThey should, because otherwise they're just virtue signalling, not making an argument.