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I find my dichotomy a lot less remarkable than "the problems with Macs are only an issue for programmers." Any user who types lots of emails could be suffering

I find my dichotomy a lot less remarkable than "the problems with Macs are only an issue for programmers." Any user who types lots of emails could be suffering but complaints about the circumstance are frequently dismissed on HN with comments to the effect of: "you're a programmer and therefore weird; your needs are weird and therefore your complaints are irrelevant." (Also, comparing anything favorably to windows should be considered damning with faint praise. Windows is notorious for being trash.)

least 7y ago
I never made that claim that you're suggesting. What I did imply was that the term 'power user' is broad and just because apple's PCs don't work for a specific individual's use case, it doesn't mean that they're not for power users. It simply means that Apple fails to meet that person's needs. A data scientist reliant on CUDA cores on nvidia hardware won't find a mac very useful because there aren't any current apple computers that have an nvidia card in it. Still, a musician or film editor might find a great workflow with mac hardware.
- catalogia 7y ago
  I don't give a damn about CUDA. I'm talking about shoddy hardware and first party applications. None of this is programmer-specific. The decline of Apple product quality effects a broad class of users. The term "power user", used originally upthread, is contrasted with "starbucks crowd", e.g. people who stare pensively at their computer without actually touching it, trying to look cultured and sophisticated with their luxury computer. It's not about programmers or any programming specific tasks. Power user in this context is very broad.
  - least 7y ago
    ...and I'm saying that you're making up an idea in your head that there are people that buy their mac laptops and don't actually use them. The people at Starbucks do use their computers, just not in a way that you appreciate. That meme is propagated online but it doesn't actually reflect reality.

least 7y ago

I never made that claim that you're suggesting. What I did imply was that the term 'power user' is broad and just because apple's PCs don't work for a specific individual's use case, it doesn't mean that they're not for power users. It simply means that Apple fails to meet that person's needs. A data scientist reliant on CUDA cores on nvidia hardware won't find a mac very useful because there aren't any current apple computers that have an nvidia card in it. Still, a musician or film editor might find a great workflow with mac hardware.

catalogia 7y ago
I don't give a damn about CUDA. I'm talking about shoddy hardware and first party applications. None of this is programmer-specific. The decline of Apple product quality effects a broad class of users. The term "power user", used originally upthread, is contrasted with "starbucks crowd", e.g. people who stare pensively at their computer without actually touching it, trying to look cultured and sophisticated with their luxury computer. It's not about programmers or any programming specific tasks. Power user in this context is very broad.
- least 7y ago
  ...and I'm saying that you're making up an idea in your head that there are people that buy their mac laptops and don't actually use them. The people at Starbucks do use their computers, just not in a way that you appreciate. That meme is propagated online but it doesn't actually reflect reality.