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The rise of social justice is the evolution of our society from red/orange through high orange to a green society on the Spiral Dynamics model of psychological

The rise of social justice is the evolution of our society from red/orange through high orange to a green society on the Spiral Dynamics model of psychological / spiritual evolution. We're seeing the limits and the ugliness of unhealthy/low orange in the environment, politics, culture, et al. The transition to green will be painful and violently resisted by orange/red portions of our society, but it is necessary for our survival and for rescuing the ecology of the Earth from the excesses of unbridled stage orange capitalism. I'm so curious what our economic systems and culture will look like in stage green, but it'll likely not happen in my lifetime, which I just have to accept ...

rubbingalcohol 7y ago
Did you recently get laid off from the TSA? The only purpose your "threat level" categorization of social issues serves is to marginalize viewpoints you disagree with under the brush stroke of "progress at any cost." There are conservative values that are deeply necessary for a free society to function and that afford people the privilege* of criticizing their freedoms in the first place. (*well actually a right but rejecting civil rights in favor of 'wokeness' is so hot right now)
- dang 7y ago
  Hey, please don't cross into personal attack in HN comments. It lowers discussion quality, evokes worse from others, and discredits your argument. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- mikelyons 7y ago
  I'm not saying that conservatives are unhealthy, I'm saying there are unhealthy levels of conservatism just as there are unhealthy levels and limits to liberalism. The reason that it can be said that unity rather than adversary is higher in development is that conservatism tends to be resistance to the fundamental impermanence of reality. All things must change. Reality and consciousness are evolving. The world is becoming globalized and we are moving towards unity. And it's not about who's bad or good, better or worse, it's about what level of development are you at, how high is your awareness, how well do you understand reality. Demonizing a second grader for not reading at a high school level doesn't make any sense, just as telling a retiree he is lazy for quitting work doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to help people see the thing they are defending when they react violently. What is it in you that gets so angry when you read what I wrote? Worth examining. Edit: Also worth reading about Spiral Dynamics and seeing how it applies to Life and to politics.
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rubbingalcohol 7y ago

Did you recently get laid off from the TSA? The only purpose your "threat level" categorization of social issues serves is to marginalize viewpoints you disagree with under the brush stroke of "progress at any cost." There are conservative values that are deeply necessary for a free society to function and that afford people the privilege* of criticizing their freedoms in the first place. (*well actually a right but rejecting civil rights in favor of 'wokeness' is so hot right now)

dang 7y ago
Hey, please don't cross into personal attack in HN comments. It lowers discussion quality, evokes worse from others, and discredits your argument. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
mikelyons 7y ago
I'm not saying that conservatives are unhealthy, I'm saying there are unhealthy levels of conservatism just as there are unhealthy levels and limits to liberalism. The reason that it can be said that unity rather than adversary is higher in development is that conservatism tends to be resistance to the fundamental impermanence of reality. All things must change. Reality and consciousness are evolving. The world is becoming globalized and we are moving towards unity. And it's not about who's bad or good, better or worse, it's about what level of development are you at, how high is your awareness, how well do you understand reality. Demonizing a second grader for not reading at a high school level doesn't make any sense, just as telling a retiree he is lazy for quitting work doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to help people see the thing they are defending when they react violently. What is it in you that gets so angry when you read what I wrote? Worth examining. Edit: Also worth reading about Spiral Dynamics and seeing how it applies to Life and to politics.

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