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Can you mention a single scientifically demonstrated consequence of climate change we dont know how to handle with todays technology let alone in 50 years time?

Can you mention a single scientifically demonstrated consequence of climate change we dont know how to handle with todays technology let alone in 50 years time? I am not talking about speculated but demonstrates. Thats what they mean.

dwaltrip 7y ago
When flat-out denial slowly morphs into "maybe it isn't a huge deal", one must question if that is actually what they mean.
- ThomPete 7y ago
  So mind reading is your argument?
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  - dwaltrip 7y ago
    I'm saying that the arguments are ideologically motivated and are not put forth for their own merits.
    - ThomPete 7y ago
      You are questioning their motives not actually engaging in the argument.
    - rayiner 7y ago
      Of course the arguments are ideologically motivated. Look at the left wing of the climate change movement, which has incorporated all sorts of social justice and primitivism elements into climate change. (Rejecting nuclear power, rejecting market solutions like carbon taxes, emphasizing “indigenous technology,” etc.) Look how the Green New Deal is being pitched as a reincarnation of the labor movement, a jobs program, and a reshaping of capitalist systems, as opposed to being directed solely to addressing climate change. Climate change is a huge ideological point for everyone.
      - ZeroGravitas 7y ago
        It's not weird that climate change solutions are left wing if the right wing is still in denial. I personally think a carbon fee is the best solution but I had to go back and retype tax as fee as that well has been so thoroughly poisoned by people that the average Republican voter think the free market solution is actually a cunning plan to introduce communism.
      - triceratops 7y ago
        > Rejecting nuclear power Plenty of people reject nuclear power. It's not just "the left wing of the climate change movement". "Until 2012, no U.S. nuclear power plant had been authorized to begin construction since the year before TMI."[1] > rejecting market solutions like carbon taxes Who's doing that? I've never heard of this. Is this a universally and deeply held opinion among "the left"? Most people I know are in the "let's do something if it's going to work" boat. The other side isn't even at the "let's do something" point yet. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident#Effect_on_nuclear_power_industry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident#Eff...

dwaltrip 7y ago

When flat-out denial slowly morphs into "maybe it isn't a huge deal", one must question if that is actually what they mean.

ThomPete 7y ago
So mind reading is your argument?
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- dwaltrip 7y ago
  I'm saying that the arguments are ideologically motivated and are not put forth for their own merits.
  - ThomPete 7y ago
    You are questioning their motives not actually engaging in the argument.
  - rayiner 7y ago
    Of course the arguments are ideologically motivated. Look at the left wing of the climate change movement, which has incorporated all sorts of social justice and primitivism elements into climate change. (Rejecting nuclear power, rejecting market solutions like carbon taxes, emphasizing “indigenous technology,” etc.) Look how the Green New Deal is being pitched as a reincarnation of the labor movement, a jobs program, and a reshaping of capitalist systems, as opposed to being directed solely to addressing climate change. Climate change is a huge ideological point for everyone.
    - ZeroGravitas 7y ago
      It's not weird that climate change solutions are left wing if the right wing is still in denial. I personally think a carbon fee is the best solution but I had to go back and retype tax as fee as that well has been so thoroughly poisoned by people that the average Republican voter think the free market solution is actually a cunning plan to introduce communism.
    - triceratops 7y ago
      > Rejecting nuclear power Plenty of people reject nuclear power. It's not just "the left wing of the climate change movement". "Until 2012, no U.S. nuclear power plant had been authorized to begin construction since the year before TMI."[1] > rejecting market solutions like carbon taxes Who's doing that? I've never heard of this. Is this a universally and deeply held opinion among "the left"? Most people I know are in the "let's do something if it's going to work" boat. The other side isn't even at the "let's do something" point yet. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident#Effect_on_nuclear_power_industry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident#Eff...