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Again, I hate to defend such a fxxedxp company as Apple, but... Unless they divulged some really clever low-latency video compression optimizations during thes

by tpmx 7y ago

Again, I hate to defend such a fxxedxp company as Apple, but... Unless they divulged some really clever low-latency video compression optimizations during these meetings (I bet making the mouse cursor move with low latency was the #1 priority - everything else is boring plumbing)... I'm filing this under the "CEO's slightly dramatically exaggerated regrets", maybe for the benefits of his investors.

giancarlostoro 7y ago
Exaggerated how? Not sure how the investors benefit. I am going to assume good intent from the author to just reflect on things. Hes not focused on his other projects. But he does have the right to link to them since they are relevant.
- tpmx 7y ago
  That would be irresponsible speculation on my part, so no thanks.
  - giancarlostoro 7y ago
    Again how do investors benefit? There is usually motive behind ill intent, I am not seeing it. I have had moments similar but not quite as impacting as an entire OS adopting my ideas and I reflect from time to time on those moments. I have nothing to gain from sharing them though nor will anybody near me.
    - coredog64 7y ago
      English can be an awful language sometimes. I take that “for the benefit” to mean “The real audience is AstroPad investors”, not that AstroPad investors somehow came out better on the deal.
      - tpmx 7y ago
        Thank you for helping clarifying this thing, coredog64! (You're indeed correct.) I'll try to express myself more clearly going forward.
      - giancarlostoro 7y ago
        Ah I understand now, that I can't argue against. Companies make such public statements all the time so it's not surprising if that's the case. This also gives future investors insights into the company they are considering investing in and how they operate.
spyder 7y ago
Just watching their promo video about the Astropad Studio on their website, what I see is the latency for drawing is annoyingly bad (and they show it exactly when they're talking about "lightning fast speed" :O ) https://vimeo.com/198755916 https://vimeo.com/198755916 But part of the problem is probably the drawing software too, because even native drawing has different latency between drawing apps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbvYaO0ZZ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbvYaO0ZZ0 It's not an easy problem because even 1 ms latency is noticeable in drawing as Microsoft research showed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4
- cma 7y ago
  Apple OS updates broke low latency even on things that only send the mouse, like Synergy (power saving causes latency when idle and wakes up for responsiveness only on hardware input, or something like that). My guess is sidecar uses OS level stuff to get around some of those limitations, which may have affected astropad too?

by tpmx 7y ago

giancarlostoro 7y ago

Exaggerated how? Not sure how the investors benefit. I am going to assume good intent from the author to just reflect on things. Hes not focused on his other projects. But he does have the right to link to them since they are relevant.

tpmx 7y ago
That would be irresponsible speculation on my part, so no thanks.
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  Again how do investors benefit? There is usually motive behind ill intent, I am not seeing it. I have had moments similar but not quite as impacting as an entire OS adopting my ideas and I reflect from time to time on those moments. I have nothing to gain from sharing them though nor will anybody near me.
  - coredog64 7y ago
    English can be an awful language sometimes. I take that “for the benefit” to mean “The real audience is AstroPad investors”, not that AstroPad investors somehow came out better on the deal.
    - tpmx 7y ago
      Thank you for helping clarifying this thing, coredog64! (You're indeed correct.) I'll try to express myself more clearly going forward.
    - giancarlostoro 7y ago
      Ah I understand now, that I can't argue against. Companies make such public statements all the time so it's not surprising if that's the case. This also gives future investors insights into the company they are considering investing in and how they operate.

spyder 7y ago

Just watching their promo video about the Astropad Studio on their website, what I see is the latency for drawing is annoyingly bad (and they show it exactly when they're talking about "lightning fast speed" :O ) https://vimeo.com/198755916 https://vimeo.com/198755916 But part of the problem is probably the drawing software too, because even native drawing has different latency between drawing apps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbvYaO0ZZ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbvYaO0ZZ0 It's not an easy problem because even 1 ms latency is noticeable in drawing as Microsoft research showed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4

cma 7y ago
Apple OS updates broke low latency even on things that only send the mouse, like Synergy (power saving causes latency when idle and wakes up for responsiveness only on hardware input, or something like that). My guess is sidecar uses OS level stuff to get around some of those limitations, which may have affected astropad too?