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I'm not sure I see the relevance of this. Could you elaborate?

scarface74 7y ago
That IE didn’t set the standards anymore by 2010. By then, you had to be compatible with iPhones and by the end of the year iPads. And it wasn’t big daddy government that killed IE’s stranglehold....
- cookie_monsta 7y ago
  There was a brief time when IE and FF were about even. Around the time when a lot of developers just gave up and stopped supporting IE6 and IE's reputation never really recovered (and rightfully so). Shortly after, Chrome hit the lead and never looked back. Flash was already falling out of favour as html5 emerged, making it irrelevant. iPads and iPhones were influential in the birth of the mobile-first philosophy but not in the decline of IE. IE never really set standards, in fact the big complaint about it always was how non- compliant it was. Of course the government didn't kill IE. It died because of arrogance and short sightedness.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    Flash was all the rage until people started browsing more on mobile. Not only was Flash “not out of favor” when the iPhone was introduced, it was a big talking point that Flash didn’t run on iPhones and later iPads. It was a marketing point that Android could run Flash (badly) until everyone just gave up.
    - cookie_monsta 7y ago
      There were definitely a lot of flash sites around back in the day. But anyway, flash support/popularity had nothing to do with IE losing control of setting browser standards because IE never set browser standards in the first place - in fact it quite often flouted them.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        I’m saying that IE and Flash’s popularity didn’t decline because of government intervention - the tool that seems to be the go to of HN posters anytime there is something that they don’t like - even though what ended IE and Flash’s popularity on the web wasn’t the government.
        cookie_monsta 7y ago
        Oh, I'm sorry - I thought you were talking to me. You appear to be having a conversation with somebody else about government intervention.
        scarface74 7y ago
        Since “monopoly” has a legal meaning, what do you think the next step is when people on HN start talking about it?
        cookie_monsta 7y ago
        Well being that I was talking about IE pre-2010 I guess the next step would be to reminisce... maybe hope not to repeat the mistakes of the past? What do you suggest?

That IE didn’t set the standards anymore by 2010. By then, you had to be compatible with iPhones and by the end of the year iPads. And it wasn’t big daddy government that killed IE’s stranglehold....

cookie_monsta 7y ago
There was a brief time when IE and FF were about even. Around the time when a lot of developers just gave up and stopped supporting IE6 and IE's reputation never really recovered (and rightfully so). Shortly after, Chrome hit the lead and never looked back. Flash was already falling out of favour as html5 emerged, making it irrelevant. iPads and iPhones were influential in the birth of the mobile-first philosophy but not in the decline of IE. IE never really set standards, in fact the big complaint about it always was how non- compliant it was. Of course the government didn't kill IE. It died because of arrogance and short sightedness.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Flash was all the rage until people started browsing more on mobile. Not only was Flash “not out of favor” when the iPhone was introduced, it was a big talking point that Flash didn’t run on iPhones and later iPads. It was a marketing point that Android could run Flash (badly) until everyone just gave up.
  - cookie_monsta 7y ago
    There were definitely a lot of flash sites around back in the day. But anyway, flash support/popularity had nothing to do with IE losing control of setting browser standards because IE never set browser standards in the first place - in fact it quite often flouted them.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      I’m saying that IE and Flash’s popularity didn’t decline because of government intervention - the tool that seems to be the go to of HN posters anytime there is something that they don’t like - even though what ended IE and Flash’s popularity on the web wasn’t the government.
      - cookie_monsta 7y ago
        Oh, I'm sorry - I thought you were talking to me. You appear to be having a conversation with somebody else about government intervention.
        scarface74 7y ago
        Since “monopoly” has a legal meaning, what do you think the next step is when people on HN start talking about it?
        cookie_monsta 7y ago
        Well being that I was talking about IE pre-2010 I guess the next step would be to reminisce... maybe hope not to repeat the mistakes of the past? What do you suggest?