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Just one more nail in the coffin for SF/bay area as an innovation center. It's been really sad to see that rent seeking and bureaucracy have completely choked t

Just one more nail in the coffin for SF/bay area as an innovation center. It's been really sad to see that rent seeking and bureaucracy have completely choked that place out. I'm not sure if there will ever be another time and place like existed in silicon valley from the 70s-2000s where forward thinking creative individuals can come together in a critical mass, with an environment that allows risk taking and innovation. Maybe it will/is happening outside the US but I don't think it's here anymore.

mistrial9 7y ago
lived it ! was fun, everyone knew the finance people would f- it up
raldi 7y ago
You sound just like to co-creator of AltaVista in 1993: https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeSchiraldi/status/1105345816821084160/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeSchiraldi/status/110534581682...
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Decade 7y ago
As a San Francisco native, it has always astonished me that people would want to start tech companies here. The city government is just so hostile. Kevin Erdmann wrote an interesting thesis about this. In the past, American cities were built densely, but in the 20ᵗʰ Century they all embraced cars and NIMBYism. The few existing densely built cities thus have become a sort of limited natural resource, impossible to replicate elsewhere in the country and (in purely economic terms) worth the extreme cost of entry.
SkyMarshal 7y ago
Silicon Valley proper (Palo Alto to San Jose) is still alive and well. All sorts of cool things happening in the corridor between Stanford and Santa Clara, as they have since radar and transistors were invented there a half century ago. Startups locating in SF was done more recently because young startup employees wanted more of a city-based, young adult social life, vs the more college student or family-oriented one in Silicon Valley. But if SF is choking itself out, those startups will just move back down to South Bay/Silicon Valley or in some cases the Berkeley/Oakland area. SF screwing itself up as an innovation hub isn't the best thing for the Bay Area, but it's far from the end of the Bay Area as a whole as an innovation center.
- DrScump 7y ago
  since radar and transistors were invented there a half century ago. Radar was not an SV invention. There were many attempts at radar worldwide, but I (an SV native, BTW) would credit the UK first, especially with their invention of the cavity magnetron.

mistrial9 7y ago

lived it ! was fun, everyone knew the finance people would f- it up

raldi 7y ago

You sound just like to co-creator of AltaVista in 1993: https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeSchiraldi/status/1105345816821084160/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeSchiraldi/status/110534581682...

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Decade 7y ago

As a San Francisco native, it has always astonished me that people would want to start tech companies here. The city government is just so hostile. Kevin Erdmann wrote an interesting thesis about this. In the past, American cities were built densely, but in the 20ᵗʰ Century they all embraced cars and NIMBYism. The few existing densely built cities thus have become a sort of limited natural resource, impossible to replicate elsewhere in the country and (in purely economic terms) worth the extreme cost of entry.

SkyMarshal 7y ago

Silicon Valley proper (Palo Alto to San Jose) is still alive and well. All sorts of cool things happening in the corridor between Stanford and Santa Clara, as they have since radar and transistors were invented there a half century ago. Startups locating in SF was done more recently because young startup employees wanted more of a city-based, young adult social life, vs the more college student or family-oriented one in Silicon Valley. But if SF is choking itself out, those startups will just move back down to South Bay/Silicon Valley or in some cases the Berkeley/Oakland area. SF screwing itself up as an innovation hub isn't the best thing for the Bay Area, but it's far from the end of the Bay Area as a whole as an innovation center.

DrScump 7y ago
since radar and transistors were invented there a half century ago. Radar was not an SV invention. There were many attempts at radar worldwide, but I (an SV native, BTW) would credit the UK first, especially with their invention of the cavity magnetron.