> I see what you mean, there is indeed a difference, but it feels to me like you're trying to trap me on words for no reason. I'm honest, my contact details is

> I see what you mean, there is indeed a difference, but it feels to me like you're trying to trap me on words for no reason. I'm honest, my contact details is in also in my profile like you have in yours, and I'm not trying to trap you on technicalities of the language, but I think we should be very precise about what we mean. Either communication is cleartext or it is encrypted. If it is encrypted it is either end-to-end encrypted or it is not. A number of people keeps repeating this idea that Telegram is not encrypted and while you obviously know the difference we shouldn't continue confusing those who don't. It would be a shame if someone went with something even less secure because I keep trash-talking Whatsapp and others keep trash-talking Telegram. (I fortunately don't hear many trash-talking Signal, but it doesn't have enough marketshare here to matter yet.)