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Edge on Chromium is a great browser! Been using it for three months now and am never going back. Also, while I am here, you should all be using a Pi Hole inst

Edge on Chromium is a great browser! Been using it for three months now and am never going back. Also, while I am here, you should all be using a Pi Hole instead of uBlock Origin anyway. Much less detectable by sites, covers all of your devices... Seriously, spend the 1 hour it takes to set up the Pi Hole - you won’t regret it.

trulyrandom 7y ago
Pi-hole is a basically a glorified DNS filter. While it's great for blocking DNS names across all devices on your network, it is not a replacement for browser plugins like uBlock Origin.
armitron 7y ago
Pi Hole is a very poor substitute for uBlock origin, it doesn't block Youtube or Twitch ads for example or do anything dynamic. Plus it's full of false positives since DNS rules can be very coarse or change continuously. Not to mention the trouble you have to go to when sites break due to that coarseness or that in many cases it degrades functionality that's not immediately obvious. uBlock origin is the king of adblocking, and suffers from none of these issues. Use anything else and you're severely compromising. I'd go as far as to say that DNS adblocking is basically a waste of resources, a gimmick, the wrong solution to a well-defined problem.
- somebehemoth 7y ago
  You make good points but it sounds very silly to claim DNS adblocking is a waste of resources. One, to each his own. Two, no false positives in our home and 10%-15% of DNS queries blocked is definitely not the "wrong solution" for me and many, many others. Why trivialize legitimate use cases to make your point. Furthermore, you can't install ublock origin on IoT devices and smart TV's so your claim of "waste of resources" is even more questionable. Better still, why not both pihole and ublock origin?
- treypitt 7y ago
  Yes, but ublock doesn't write software that can be deployed to every device on your home network
lightedman 7y ago
The Pi-Hole is literally DNS filtering - aka HOSTs file in hardware. Relying upon a security practice from almost 25 years ago is not really a good idea IMHO.
- josteink 7y ago
  It’s better than nothing and also works on mobile devices with poor ad-blocking support, like the iPad and iPhone.
  - lightedman 7y ago
    It's actually not better than nothing. It's worse than nothing, because it gives a false sense of security. Bypassing DNS blocking is easy. You can access my normal site, block ads by DNS, but I can just serve everything up over plain IP address without the domain name being required, now you're loaded with ads/trackers/scripts anyways and your security just got bypassed. This trick is literally as old as HOSTs. It has been proven time and time again that DNS-based blocking only works when everything uses domain names as pointers to resources, instead of using IP addresses to do the same. It feels like APK has suddenly arrived on HN. Not a surprise since we just had him banned off Slashdot.

trulyrandom 7y ago

Pi-hole is a basically a glorified DNS filter. While it's great for blocking DNS names across all devices on your network, it is not a replacement for browser plugins like uBlock Origin.

armitron 7y ago

Pi Hole is a very poor substitute for uBlock origin, it doesn't block Youtube or Twitch ads for example or do anything dynamic. Plus it's full of false positives since DNS rules can be very coarse or change continuously. Not to mention the trouble you have to go to when sites break due to that coarseness or that in many cases it degrades functionality that's not immediately obvious. uBlock origin is the king of adblocking, and suffers from none of these issues. Use anything else and you're severely compromising. I'd go as far as to say that DNS adblocking is basically a waste of resources, a gimmick, the wrong solution to a well-defined problem.

somebehemoth 7y ago
You make good points but it sounds very silly to claim DNS adblocking is a waste of resources. One, to each his own. Two, no false positives in our home and 10%-15% of DNS queries blocked is definitely not the "wrong solution" for me and many, many others. Why trivialize legitimate use cases to make your point. Furthermore, you can't install ublock origin on IoT devices and smart TV's so your claim of "waste of resources" is even more questionable. Better still, why not both pihole and ublock origin?
treypitt 7y ago
Yes, but ublock doesn't write software that can be deployed to every device on your home network

lightedman 7y ago

The Pi-Hole is literally DNS filtering - aka HOSTs file in hardware. Relying upon a security practice from almost 25 years ago is not really a good idea IMHO.

josteink 7y ago
It’s better than nothing and also works on mobile devices with poor ad-blocking support, like the iPad and iPhone.
- lightedman 7y ago
  It's actually not better than nothing. It's worse than nothing, because it gives a false sense of security. Bypassing DNS blocking is easy. You can access my normal site, block ads by DNS, but I can just serve everything up over plain IP address without the domain name being required, now you're loaded with ads/trackers/scripts anyways and your security just got bypassed. This trick is literally as old as HOSTs. It has been proven time and time again that DNS-based blocking only works when everything uses domain names as pointers to resources, instead of using IP addresses to do the same. It feels like APK has suddenly arrived on HN. Not a surprise since we just had him banned off Slashdot.