> I don't think Phoenix will ever be able to do better than about 80% of Rails's productivity. I haven't used Elixir/Phoenix myself, but my main issue with Rub

> I don't think Phoenix will ever be able to do better than about 80% of Rails's productivity. I haven't used Elixir/Phoenix myself, but my main issue with Ruby on Rails was how much of long-term productivity was sacrificed for short-term productivity gains. In other words, what made it extremely easy to create the first version of the application with Rails, also made it very hard to maintain and scale it later on. Therefore, I would consider it a win, if 20% decrease in short-term productivity provided an equal increase in long-term productivity, which is much harder to measure.