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It's the whole selling of a sugary drink vs selling the oppression of a billion people.
by alt_f4 7y ago
It's the whole selling of a sugary drink vs selling the oppression of a billion people.
- anon9001 7y agoBoth seem bad. Isn't the thing to be offended about that you're consuming media that you think is an artistic work, but it's got some propaganda mixed in with it? If you're doing business with Pepsi and your workers are publicly trashing Pepsi, it makes sense that you'd put a stop to it. That's what Apple (and the rest) are doing with China.
- austhrow743 7y ago>Isn't the thing to be offended about that you're consuming media that you think is an artistic work, but it's got some propaganda mixed in with it? No the thing to be offended about is genocide. Art can go fuck itself compared to that. No offence to art or dislike for it.
- anon9001 7y agoWhat genocide? This whole thing boiled over due to a proposed law to allow extradition of HK residents to China, which is bad, but it's not genocide.
- austhrow743 7y agoThe Uyghurs. HK is getting most of the China attention lately but right before that it was all directly about the Uyghurs. HK gets more attention because they have more ability to broadcast their struggle. Videos of people fighting police are more entertaining than satellite photos of bland looking buildings. That China is forcing abortions and harvesting organs from people in concentration camps is what gives the HK and global business capitulation stories their edge though. A country slightly reducing the independence of one of its cities isn't all that big of a deal, unless that country is evil incarnate. Businesses working within the framework set by, and cooperating with, the governments they are working under isn't a big deal, unless that government is evil incarnate. It turns those things in to the equivalent of Poland being swallowed up by WW2 Germany and allied countries fueling the German war machine. Yes I am making a Nazi reference, of which I consider the CCP to be within the ballpark of.
- anon9001 7y agoOk, I did a little reading on that one, and that's pretty close to genocide. The idea that everything that touches China is toxic seems reasonable, but it still doesn't explain why are we suddenly drawing the line at censorship in entertainment. Everything is made in China, and Apple is no stranger to the Chinese market. I don't know how it worked with the nazis, but I'd guess at some point it became unacceptable for US companies to do business with them. Maybe that's where this is headed.
- jowsie 7y agoiPhones aren't being made worse globally to cater to Chinese government demands. Entertainment, arguably, is.
- poudfeahw 7y agoWhat's shocking is that HK with 0 deaths is getting more news than Iraq, where 100 protesters were just killed a few days agi. Not to mention Kashmir, which isn't even in the news anymore.
- wp381640 7y agoI know China defenders take whataboutism and moral relativism to extremes but not even the Soviet Union stooped so low to justify any of their actions with "But, Pepsi"
- anon9001 7y agoI'm not defending China. I'm just surprised at how shocked everyone seems to be that media companies are peddling influence for China, because they'll do it for literally anyone with money.