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> Catchphrases from the book have not entered the language. The spice must flow? Fear is the mind killer? Christopher Walken dancing to Fatboy Slim's "Weapon
by Pfhreak 7y ago
> Catchphrases from the book have not entered the language.
The spice must flow?
Fear is the mind killer?
Christopher Walken dancing to Fatboy Slim's "Weapon of Choice" includes the phrase "Walk without a rhythm, you won't attract the worm". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCDIYvFmgW8
Maybe to a lesser extent, "He who controls the spice controls the universe", "wheels within wheels", and the gom jabbar are all things I've heard people reference.
It's definitely entered the language. Maybe not as deeply as Star Wars, but it's not absent either.
- hanoz 7y agoThis is my favourite film so I'm pretty tuned in to these phrases, and I've never heard anyone use any of them. I'm also pretty sure there's no "wheels within wheels" in it.
- gamblor956 7y agoDune is a book. The movie is just a horrible adaptation of that book.
- hanoz 7y agoAh, sorry. I'd somehow got it into my head that we were specifically talking about the movie. I do love the book too. But the movie is better.
- sgt101 7y ago>I do love the book too. But the movie is better. there must be other people who believe that, but I've never met any of them.
- johncoltrane 7y agoOne more, here.
- rolltiide 7y agoand another one My dad also liked the movie and I’ve tried to be relatable to people his age, only to notice that I missed 1980s newsgroups and conventions where people dissed the movie adaptation. maybe I’ll read the book.
- ekianjo 7y agobetter in what ways? Even Lynch does not want to say he was attached to the movie after it came out.
- toupeira 7y agoThat was only the horrible TV cut, his name is still attached to the theatrical version.
- cgriswald 7y agoI'd like to know, too. I can speculate about people being turned off by the shifting POV, heavy internal thoughts, and dry style of it. But I'd rather here it straight from the horse's mouth.
- eikenberry 7y agoYou should listen to the audio book of it. I've read the entire series, seen the movie and mini-series and listened to the audio-books... and the audio-book is by far the best. They are the voice acting type, with multiple readers for the different voices and they do a wonderful job. Just talking about it makes me want to listen to it again, such a good rendition.
- hanoz 7y agoThat's a good call. I have listened to it a couple of times and it is indeed very good. To any Dune fans who are not normally audiobook listeners I would say it would make an excellent use of a free Audible trial.
- thordenmark 7y agoThat is the first time I've seen anyone even suggest that. The movie has some memorable qualities, but hardly compares to the book's greatness.
- airstrike 7y ago> Fear is the mind killer? "Fear is the mind-killer," whispers Paul Atreides. "So is this movie," groaned the critics. https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/the-messy-misunderstood-glory-of-david-lynchs-em-dune-em/284316/ https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/03/th...
- catalogia 7y agoThere are some fan edits that improve the movie dramatically. My preference is "Alternative Edition Redux". It used to be available archive.org, though I'm sure it's still floating around the net somewhere.
- doc_gunthrop 7y agoThat was the version that combined the original theatrical release version, the director's cut, and a bunch of other scenes that were cut out. There's one scene that they put back in, toward the end, where Thufir Hawat pulls out his own heart plug; very emotional scene that IMO they should've kept in the original.
- Lutzb 7y agoMaybe this is a case of false memory, but I am sure I have seen this scene before in a TV cut of the movie.
- kyriakos 7y agoThe author of the article is not very knowledgeable about dune it seems. Dune has quite the fan base it just never had a good commercial success in movies and TV to become mainstream.
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- siddboots 7y ago"Wheels within wheels" is a biblical reference. https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/1-16.htm https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/1-16.htm Edit: It comes up in country songs sometimes, e.g. https://youtu.be/g6a9sYiBtlM?t=539 https://youtu.be/g6a9sYiBtlM?t=539
- 609venezia 7y agoThese phrases are probably much more popular among the Hacker News reading crowd than the broader culture, I would bet.
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- ggm 7y agoI would bet you were wrong. These are common memetic phrases and probably exist in the Simpsons. S.F is normal and everyone knows the film. Sting in a metal bikini
- fingerlocks 7y agoI've heard fear is the mind killer used in the skiing in rock climbing scene. It's used as to encourage someone that is nervous about skiing a narrow/steep couloir or climbing a route at their physical limit. That crowd is very bookwormish too.
- Retric 7y agoDune is old enough to have deeper connections than just catch phrases. It spawned RTS games via the Dune 2 game based on the movie. RTS games then which spawned Moba's like League of Legends via Warcraft III (Defense of the Ancients). Though as you say “Fear is the mind killer” shows up all over the place.
- stevekemp 7y agoLots of good history/backstory to the Dune game developments here: https://www.filfre.net/tag/dune/ https://www.filfre.net/tag/dune/
- ethbro 7y agoFolks forget about Dune 1 too. In 1992, it was one of the first "modern" 4X games (SimCity 1989, Civilization 1991). Even given shorter game development timelines, it deserves more credit than it gets.
- pgt 7y agoDune 1 is one my favourite games. I still pull it up once every few years and play it out. Beautifully made. The Space Opera soundtrack by Exxos is also epic!
- mancerayder 7y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WZQbJlLkDg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WZQbJlLkDg
- ethbro 7y agoI didn't know the whole internal war about its development. If you check the sibling comment, it's a really interesting story!
- empath75 7y agoI think there was some kind of law that every third psytrance record needed to sample a line from Dune.
- doc_gunthrop 7y agoDon't forget: "The sleeper must awaken!"
- INTPenis 7y agoI have a tattoo that says Fear is the mind killer because of Dune. But I'm a huge scifi fan and consider stuff like Revelation Space much better than any star wars or treks.
- RangerScience 7y ago"Fear is the mindkiller" may be super memorable, but the end of the litany (paraphrased): "I will let it pass through me and over me and when it is gone I will look where has been and there only I will remain" - well, applies to just about anything with great success.
- koheripbal 7y agoPracticing this once saved my life while scuba diving. I was stuck in a cave and I began to panic and hyperventilate. Having delt with other high stress situations and remembering this full quote prepared me. Being able to identify my emotion in a high stress moment and knowing that the fear would pass is what calmed me down and think my way out of my problem. It's not enough to remember the words. You also need to practice.
- kieckerjan 7y agoCare to tell what happened? I am intrigued (and horrified). The idea of being stuck in an underwater cave is the stuff of nightmares.