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Yes, it’s terrible that you’re not allowed to reproduce white nationalist propaganda in public.

by ixtli 7y ago

egdod 7y ago
Thanks for proving the point. People of literally every race are allowed to be proud of being that race... except white.
- ixtli 7y ago
  I’m so sick of dealing with people who make this nonsense argument. You know damn well the cultural context the literal words you wrote carry. It’s incredibly (and intentionally!) disingenuous to say this is anything like someone saying “I’m proud to be of Spanish decent.” You know, come to think of it I’d be weirded out by anyone saying something equivalent, like being proud of being Asian instead of saying “I’m proud of being Korean.” When black Americans talk about black pride that has a specific context: they are proud of a heritage that includes not knowing where they are from because of the slave trade. The thing is, though, you know this. Further, reasonable people know what you’re trying to do. Edit: in case anyone is unaware. The original comment is a direct evocation of David lanes 14 words. “ We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.” Edit II: I appear to have confused the person I’m replying to here with the user that rephrased the 14 words but I’m still pretty sure they’re trying to defend the notions of a far right terrorist.
  - spumoni 7y ago
    We know for a fact that we can select whites by skull shape. We know that there is a genetic heritage entwined within them all. Whiteness is a genetic movement. The only way to counteract the propaganda of nonwhites and self-hating whites denying this movement is to affirm whiteness. Let's try to stick to the arguments rather than cast aspersions on people, Chris. So we can conclude that the probability is very low and certainly a hypothesis not supported by the evidence. We can also conclude that the only way to do white genocide without creating a culture-genocide is if you had a large number of people with the correct combination of traits in those skulls. In a similar vein, you can take a look at the evidence for various types of cultural genocide, all of which can be seen as genocide in one way or another. If we look at the evidence for genocide, we must conclude that it is likely that there will be some kind of cultural genocide when whites are in a minority in a majority-black nation. And if you believe this, your own racial ideology leads you to believe the same thing about a situation in which you see the results of a cultural genocide.
    - ixtli 7y ago
      I've been doing this a long time but someone making an unironic claim that phrenology supports their argument is a new one, honestly. Other than that this is all over the place. You go back and forth between conflating "genetics" (which in this case seems to just be a proxy for "what someone looks like") and "culture" throughout. This is incoherent at best and I repeat: everyone knows what you're doing. Arguments rather than aspersions? That's yet another boring rhetorical tactic to avoid dealing directly with the accusation that you're all but directly quoting the white supremacist terrorist David Lane. Whatever, tl;dr: people are a majority the product of their conditions and its usually people who don't understand this that end up doing actual genocide.
  - egdod 7y ago
    > You know, come to think of it I’d be weirded out by anyone saying something equivalent, like being proud of being Asian instead of saying “I’m proud of being Korean.” When black Americans talk about black pride that has a specific context: they are proud of a heritage that includes not knowing where they are from because of the slave trade. That’s an interesting theory, but it doesn’t have much to do with reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_pride https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_pride Also re: your second edit, yikes. How about assuming I have good motives (like pointing out hypocrisy / double standards / “what you can’t say”) instead of assuming I’m on the side of a terrorist?

Yes, it’s terrible that you’re not allowed to reproduce white nationalist propaganda in public.

by ixtli 7y ago

Yes, it’s terrible that you’re not allowed to reproduce white nationalist propaganda in public.

Thanks for proving the point. People of literally every race are allowed to be proud of being that race... except white.

ixtli 7y ago
I’m so sick of dealing with people who make this nonsense argument. You know damn well the cultural context the literal words you wrote carry. It’s incredibly (and intentionally!) disingenuous to say this is anything like someone saying “I’m proud to be of Spanish decent.” You know, come to think of it I’d be weirded out by anyone saying something equivalent, like being proud of being Asian instead of saying “I’m proud of being Korean.” When black Americans talk about black pride that has a specific context: they are proud of a heritage that includes not knowing where they are from because of the slave trade. The thing is, though, you know this. Further, reasonable people know what you’re trying to do. Edit: in case anyone is unaware. The original comment is a direct evocation of David lanes 14 words. “ We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.” Edit II: I appear to have confused the person I’m replying to here with the user that rephrased the 14 words but I’m still pretty sure they’re trying to defend the notions of a far right terrorist.
- spumoni 7y ago
  We know for a fact that we can select whites by skull shape. We know that there is a genetic heritage entwined within them all. Whiteness is a genetic movement. The only way to counteract the propaganda of nonwhites and self-hating whites denying this movement is to affirm whiteness. Let's try to stick to the arguments rather than cast aspersions on people, Chris. So we can conclude that the probability is very low and certainly a hypothesis not supported by the evidence. We can also conclude that the only way to do white genocide without creating a culture-genocide is if you had a large number of people with the correct combination of traits in those skulls. In a similar vein, you can take a look at the evidence for various types of cultural genocide, all of which can be seen as genocide in one way or another. If we look at the evidence for genocide, we must conclude that it is likely that there will be some kind of cultural genocide when whites are in a minority in a majority-black nation. And if you believe this, your own racial ideology leads you to believe the same thing about a situation in which you see the results of a cultural genocide.
  - ixtli 7y ago
    I've been doing this a long time but someone making an unironic claim that phrenology supports their argument is a new one, honestly. Other than that this is all over the place. You go back and forth between conflating "genetics" (which in this case seems to just be a proxy for "what someone looks like") and "culture" throughout. This is incoherent at best and I repeat: everyone knows what you're doing. Arguments rather than aspersions? That's yet another boring rhetorical tactic to avoid dealing directly with the accusation that you're all but directly quoting the white supremacist terrorist David Lane. Whatever, tl;dr: people are a majority the product of their conditions and its usually people who don't understand this that end up doing actual genocide.
- egdod 7y ago
  > You know, come to think of it I’d be weirded out by anyone saying something equivalent, like being proud of being Asian instead of saying “I’m proud of being Korean.” When black Americans talk about black pride that has a specific context: they are proud of a heritage that includes not knowing where they are from because of the slave trade. That’s an interesting theory, but it doesn’t have much to do with reality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_pride https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_pride Also re: your second edit, yikes. How about assuming I have good motives (like pointing out hypocrisy / double standards / “what you can’t say”) instead of assuming I’m on the side of a terrorist?