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That's very true, I'm just wondering what buttons will they push to do that here given Telegram's background.

anonuser123456 7y ago
They instruct financial institutions world wide to cease processing transactions to/from telegram and freeze their accounts or lose access to the US banking system and risk having their assets frozen.
AzzieElbab 7y ago
Pressure Apple and Google to remove the app from their stores?
- notsrg 7y ago
  At least on Android, Telegram is available via Fdroid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.telegram.messenger/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.telegram.messenger/
  - bdcravens 7y ago
    What percentage of Android users, or to be generous, Telegram users, are running Fdroid?
    - emilfihlman 7y ago
      If you block Telegram from the Play store, suddenly most of them.
    - imsesaok 7y ago
      it's not a huge investment, and does not cost any money; market share really doesn't matter here when you can get in easily. you also can download the app on their website without installing their store app. also keep in mind that telegram definitely can distribute their app on their website, like they do with desktop apps.
  - dbrgn 7y ago
    Yep, but that's the "open source" Android app, where the irregular code dumps are often weeks or months behind the released Play Store version...
    - lucb1e 7y ago
      And it uses openstreetmap tiles instead of sharing location data with google, and a few more such modifications.
- Kinnard 7y ago
  That would only drive things more toward censorship-resistant blockchain-based app stores after Google and Apple's behavior with apps in Hong Kong.
  - lucb1e 7y ago
    > censorship-resistant blockchain-based app stores Except that the word blockchain is entirely unnecessary here. How would IPFS not suffice? Or Bittorrent? Or Telegram itself. Unless no country on earth is willing to host X, X can host somewhere. This "X" can be Telegram itself or the app store that it is on. You make blockchain sound like magic pixie dust, but what the word means is something like git (see the Wikipedia page about it for a definition), not "magic pixie dust that makes something unblockable".
    - Kinnard 7y ago
      IPFS might suffice, it might not. It also does happen to be Blockchain based . . . Sounds like you're expressing cynicism more than an alternative pathway for achieving censorship-resistant blockchain-based app stores
      - htfu 7y ago
        No, it's not blockchain based.
      - skinnymuch 7y ago
        How is IPFS blockchain based?
- newscracker 7y ago
  That would affect hundreds of millions of people who rely on their phone apps for chat. For others, Telegram would still work with its desktop clients as well as the browser based version at web.telegram.org.

They instruct financial institutions world wide to cease processing transactions to/from telegram and freeze their accounts or lose access to the US banking system and risk having their assets frozen.

AzzieElbab 7y ago

Pressure Apple and Google to remove the app from their stores?

notsrg 7y ago
At least on Android, Telegram is available via Fdroid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.telegram.messenger/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.telegram.messenger/
- bdcravens 7y ago
  What percentage of Android users, or to be generous, Telegram users, are running Fdroid?
  - emilfihlman 7y ago
    If you block Telegram from the Play store, suddenly most of them.
  - imsesaok 7y ago
    it's not a huge investment, and does not cost any money; market share really doesn't matter here when you can get in easily. you also can download the app on their website without installing their store app. also keep in mind that telegram definitely can distribute their app on their website, like they do with desktop apps.
- dbrgn 7y ago
  Yep, but that's the "open source" Android app, where the irregular code dumps are often weeks or months behind the released Play Store version...
  - lucb1e 7y ago
    And it uses openstreetmap tiles instead of sharing location data with google, and a few more such modifications.
Kinnard 7y ago
That would only drive things more toward censorship-resistant blockchain-based app stores after Google and Apple's behavior with apps in Hong Kong.
- lucb1e 7y ago
  > censorship-resistant blockchain-based app stores Except that the word blockchain is entirely unnecessary here. How would IPFS not suffice? Or Bittorrent? Or Telegram itself. Unless no country on earth is willing to host X, X can host somewhere. This "X" can be Telegram itself or the app store that it is on. You make blockchain sound like magic pixie dust, but what the word means is something like git (see the Wikipedia page about it for a definition), not "magic pixie dust that makes something unblockable".
  - Kinnard 7y ago
    IPFS might suffice, it might not. It also does happen to be Blockchain based . . . Sounds like you're expressing cynicism more than an alternative pathway for achieving censorship-resistant blockchain-based app stores
    - htfu 7y ago
      No, it's not blockchain based.
    - skinnymuch 7y ago
      How is IPFS blockchain based?
newscracker 7y ago
That would affect hundreds of millions of people who rely on their phone apps for chat. For others, Telegram would still work with its desktop clients as well as the browser based version at web.telegram.org.