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The only mentioned cost is that they can't change the sign without review. If a business is going to go bust because they couldn't change their sign on a dime,

by nxc18 7y ago

The only mentioned cost is that they can't change the sign without review. If a business is going to go bust because they couldn't change their sign on a dime, the business probably wasn't viable in the first place. This reads like a conservative business owner being annoyed that a government body is existing and doing its job well, which I suppose is a common sentiment. Also, the LPC has nothing to do with 'progressives'. Its been around since the 60s.

ceejayoz 7y ago
> Also, the LPC has nothing to do with 'progressives'. Its been around since the 60s. In fairness, so have progressives. (Longer, even.) Deeming buildings to be landmarks seems like a bit of a mix between progressive and conservative thought.
JackFr 7y ago
The cost is the change in value of the building.
chrisdhoover 7y ago
Changing the signage is an example of how deep the restrictions run. “The restrictions are so great they even include signage,” is how I read the paragraph. I did not read the paragraph as “the restrictions are minor for example a trivial restriction on signage.“
- wtallis 7y ago
  > Changing the signage is an example of how deep the restrictions run. Not a very good example—this kind of regulation is usually focused on preserving the distinctive exterior look of a building, so including the signage in the regulation is not even close to being an overreach, and it doesn't give much indication about whether the regulations do go too far.
  - beerandt 7y ago
    Except they're enforced even after the regulations put the original store out of business. The surge of small town historical districts in the US in the 80s-90s froze whatever signage was there at the time. Now many of these towns have blocks of buildings with expensive and beautiful signs; none match the name of the actual business inside.
sverige 7y ago
It's highly unlikely that a wealthy NYC bookstore owner who is married to Ron Wyden is also conservative.
- beerandt 7y ago
  Everyone's a conservative once regulation hits close enough to home.
busterarm 7y ago
You can't change your sign without paying thousands of dollars in permits anyway.

by nxc18 7y ago

ceejayoz 7y ago

> Also, the LPC has nothing to do with 'progressives'. Its been around since the 60s. In fairness, so have progressives. (Longer, even.) Deeming buildings to be landmarks seems like a bit of a mix between progressive and conservative thought.

JackFr 7y ago

The cost is the change in value of the building.

chrisdhoover 7y ago

Changing the signage is an example of how deep the restrictions run. “The restrictions are so great they even include signage,” is how I read the paragraph. I did not read the paragraph as “the restrictions are minor for example a trivial restriction on signage.“

wtallis 7y ago
> Changing the signage is an example of how deep the restrictions run. Not a very good example—this kind of regulation is usually focused on preserving the distinctive exterior look of a building, so including the signage in the regulation is not even close to being an overreach, and it doesn't give much indication about whether the regulations do go too far.
- beerandt 7y ago
  Except they're enforced even after the regulations put the original store out of business. The surge of small town historical districts in the US in the 80s-90s froze whatever signage was there at the time. Now many of these towns have blocks of buildings with expensive and beautiful signs; none match the name of the actual business inside.

sverige 7y ago

It's highly unlikely that a wealthy NYC bookstore owner who is married to Ron Wyden is also conservative.

beerandt 7y ago
Everyone's a conservative once regulation hits close enough to home.

busterarm 7y ago

You can't change your sign without paying thousands of dollars in permits anyway.