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> Except I can count on one hand the number of fortune 500 enterprises that moved to gsuite over o365. That's maybe another way of showing that UX is not the w

by ridaj 7y ago

> Except I can count on one hand the number of fortune 500 enterprises that moved to gsuite over o365. That's maybe another way of showing that UX is not the winning differentiator in enterprise that it is in consumer. > This reads like someone who lives in the valley and thinks the valley is in any way reflective of corporate America. I don't live in that valley, and I fully know that it doesn't reflect the rest of US or world, and that is why, indeed, enterprise UX does suck! :) I think we agree... I'm not hearing an argument from you that it's because of superior UX that people are sticking to O365.

TeMPOraL 7y ago
> That's maybe another way of showing that UX is not the winning differentiator in enterprise that it is in consumer. But it is. That and useful features. Both of which Office has, and GSuite has not. I don't remember the name of that "Word lite" program that was included with Windows for free around Vista/7, which could open less sophisticated .doc files and was a default binding for .rtf files. But compared to Microsoft Office, GSuite is like that program, but on the web.
- jeromebaek 7y ago
  i believe this was called WordPad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPad
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    Yes, that one, thanks!
- healsjnr1 7y ago
  Again this goes down to usability vs features. Word has a lot of features and, for certain publishing needs, these are important. But what gsuite adds is usability. You no longer need shared drives. You no longer need to email docs around, you no longer need Spec_new_v3_new.doc. I don't even need my computer any more, I can use anyone's. I also don't need the immense amount of publishing and formatting options word provides. What I need to do is create documents that can be shared and collaborated on easily.
- ridaj 7y ago
  I have worked in enterprise for 20 years and have always been watching the vast majority of my colleagues (by the numbers) struggle to make anything but basic use of Office. My experience has been that there are a few advanced users who enjoy the mastery of it enough that they know it inside out, but the majority of enterprise workers really just do pretty basic stuff with it. Meanwhile, the killer app of G Docs (collaboration) is a very frequently unanswered need. People emailing attachments with ridiculous names like "contract_v2_final_finalforreal.docx", making conflicting edits that cannot be reconciled, carrying USB sticks around because their PPT presentation is too big for email and they can never figure out how to use shared folders, etc.
  - a-mlw-walker 7y ago
    Hey, I'm looking into a solution to this problem, I wondered if there was a way to DM you about your experience? I've been working on something and would love to hear thoughts around how people solve this where gDocs etc don't. Thanks

by ridaj 7y ago

TeMPOraL 7y ago

> That's maybe another way of showing that UX is not the winning differentiator in enterprise that it is in consumer. But it is. That and useful features. Both of which Office has, and GSuite has not. I don't remember the name of that "Word lite" program that was included with Windows for free around Vista/7, which could open less sophisticated .doc files and was a default binding for .rtf files. But compared to Microsoft Office, GSuite is like that program, but on the web.

jeromebaek 7y ago
i believe this was called WordPad. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordPad
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  Yes, that one, thanks!
healsjnr1 7y ago
Again this goes down to usability vs features. Word has a lot of features and, for certain publishing needs, these are important. But what gsuite adds is usability. You no longer need shared drives. You no longer need to email docs around, you no longer need Spec_new_v3_new.doc. I don't even need my computer any more, I can use anyone's. I also don't need the immense amount of publishing and formatting options word provides. What I need to do is create documents that can be shared and collaborated on easily.
ridaj 7y ago
I have worked in enterprise for 20 years and have always been watching the vast majority of my colleagues (by the numbers) struggle to make anything but basic use of Office. My experience has been that there are a few advanced users who enjoy the mastery of it enough that they know it inside out, but the majority of enterprise workers really just do pretty basic stuff with it. Meanwhile, the killer app of G Docs (collaboration) is a very frequently unanswered need. People emailing attachments with ridiculous names like "contract_v2_final_finalforreal.docx", making conflicting edits that cannot be reconciled, carrying USB sticks around because their PPT presentation is too big for email and they can never figure out how to use shared folders, etc.
- a-mlw-walker 7y ago
  Hey, I'm looking into a solution to this problem, I wondered if there was a way to DM you about your experience? I've been working on something and would love to hear thoughts around how people solve this where gDocs etc don't. Thanks