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It's really time for hn to acknowledge that stories have multiple links, perspectives, and chronological events and allow groupings. Take techmeme for example

by basch 7y ago

It's really time for hn to acknowledge that stories have multiple links, perspectives, and chronological events and allow groupings. Take techmeme for example https://www.techmeme.com/191010/p17#a191010p17 https://www.techmeme.com/191010/p17#a191010p17 To the left of the story, click the down arrow, thats every repost or perspective of the original story. Then the indented stories are followups. Circa also designed itself around this, having a story and when you clicked it, THEN you would see the overall structure of the stories development timeline. It wouldnt even have to be a chance to the existing hn site, somuch as an additional view that allows stories and comments to be stitched together and intermixed. More on the topic of this post, I love the wired headline, how it reads "lightening strikes twice" and then the sentence continues, modifying twice into "twice as."

fedups 7y ago
Never heard about Circa before, but just read a little about them and their feature that has the goal > "to break down a story into its core elements: facts, stats, quotes and media", as opposed to a summary where content is reduced for quicker reading or users are linked elsewhere for the full story Do you know of any other [general, not tech-specific] media outlets with this philosophy? I find most sources these days are unhelpful even though they think they're adding value with emphasis on narratives.
- basch 7y ago
  it flies in the face of "chronological feed culture" (twitter, rivers) and "algo popularity" to have people clicking the same story multiple time for updates. chron/ai feeds are meant to let you ever feast on the new without ever going back to the old. that philosophy you are looking for has a hard time competing with out of context constantly breaking news blips. (short answer to your q, I cant think of a good one off the top of my head.) Does wikinews have that sort of metastructure above stories? https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page personally id love a menu in a news app that says "updates to stories youve clicked" without having to follow a story. then separately i would have "followed/starred" stories as a different menu entry. they might sort differently, such as, since last clicked vs since most recent update.

by basch 7y ago

fedups 7y ago

Never heard about Circa before, but just read a little about them and their feature that has the goal > "to break down a story into its core elements: facts, stats, quotes and media", as opposed to a summary where content is reduced for quicker reading or users are linked elsewhere for the full story Do you know of any other [general, not tech-specific] media outlets with this philosophy? I find most sources these days are unhelpful even though they think they're adding value with emphasis on narratives.

basch 7y ago
it flies in the face of "chronological feed culture" (twitter, rivers) and "algo popularity" to have people clicking the same story multiple time for updates. chron/ai feeds are meant to let you ever feast on the new without ever going back to the old. that philosophy you are looking for has a hard time competing with out of context constantly breaking news blips. (short answer to your q, I cant think of a good one off the top of my head.) Does wikinews have that sort of metastructure above stories? https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page personally id love a menu in a news app that says "updates to stories youve clicked" without having to follow a story. then separately i would have "followed/starred" stories as a different menu entry. they might sort differently, such as, since last clicked vs since most recent update.