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Alternatively, could this name be a pseudonym for the research group writ large? It assigns the patent to the whole group to avoid giving any particular team me

by NamTaf 7y ago

Alternatively, could this name be a pseudonym for the research group writ large? It assigns the patent to the whole group to avoid giving any particular team member the credit, and it also avoids identifying any individual who may be regularly dealing with classified information. I’ve no idea if this is actually possible within the rules of the patent system, though.

desdiv 7y ago
This link[0] seems to suggest that filing under a pseudonym is not possible. Full legal name, residence, and citizenship of each inventor must be provided. And there are criminal penalties for knowingly supplying the patent office with false information[1]: >1) All statements made therein of the party’s own knowledge are true, all statements made therein on information and belief are believed to be true, and all statements made therein are made with the knowledge that whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the Office, knowingly and willfully falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact, or knowingly and willfully makes any false, fictitious, or fraudulent statements or representations, or knowingly and willfully makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry, shall be subject to the penalties set forth under 18 U.S.C. 1001 and any other applicable criminal statute, and violations of the provisions of this section may jeopardize the probative value of the paper; and ... [0] https://www.dhuelaw.com/blog/2017/february/is-it-possible-to-file-a-patent-application-usin/ https://www.dhuelaw.com/blog/2017/february/is-it-possible-to... [1] https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s410.html https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s410.html
- mr_overalls 7y ago
  Remember that the NSA has illegally spied on US citizens for decades. I think the Navy could easily swing a waiver from the Patent Office under the rationale of "national security."
  - BubRoss 7y ago
    People knew about that though - slashdot had articles on echelon collecting emails 20 years ago but it just didn't make enough of a splash.
  - egdod 7y ago
    Administrative agencies don’t get to waive statutory law.
  - camel_Snake 7y ago
    Why would anonymizing the actual inventor be a matter of national security when they could easily have prevented the patent from being disclosed in the first place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act
dsr_ 7y ago
Salvatore Pais => Savior of the Country. Nominative determinism?
- bufferoverflow 7y ago
  His full name is Salvatore Cezar Pais, and supposedly he works for Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division.
egdod 7y ago
You’re not allowed to intentionally falsify the inventorship.

by NamTaf 7y ago

desdiv 7y ago

This link[0] seems to suggest that filing under a pseudonym is not possible. Full legal name, residence, and citizenship of each inventor must be provided. And there are criminal penalties for knowingly supplying the patent office with false information[1]: >1) All statements made therein of the party’s own knowledge are true, all statements made therein on information and belief are believed to be true, and all statements made therein are made with the knowledge that whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the Office, knowingly and willfully falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact, or knowingly and willfully makes any false, fictitious, or fraudulent statements or representations, or knowingly and willfully makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry, shall be subject to the penalties set forth under 18 U.S.C. 1001 and any other applicable criminal statute, and violations of the provisions of this section may jeopardize the probative value of the paper; and ... [0] https://www.dhuelaw.com/blog/2017/february/is-it-possible-to-file-a-patent-application-usin/ https://www.dhuelaw.com/blog/2017/february/is-it-possible-to... [1] https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s410.html https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s410.html

mr_overalls 7y ago
Remember that the NSA has illegally spied on US citizens for decades. I think the Navy could easily swing a waiver from the Patent Office under the rationale of "national security."
- BubRoss 7y ago
  People knew about that though - slashdot had articles on echelon collecting emails 20 years ago but it just didn't make enough of a splash.
- egdod 7y ago
  Administrative agencies don’t get to waive statutory law.
- camel_Snake 7y ago
  Why would anonymizing the actual inventor be a matter of national security when they could easily have prevented the patent from being disclosed in the first place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act

dsr_ 7y ago

Salvatore Pais => Savior of the Country. Nominative determinism?

bufferoverflow 7y ago
His full name is Salvatore Cezar Pais, and supposedly he works for Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division.

egdod 7y ago

You’re not allowed to intentionally falsify the inventorship.