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> And let's face it, most of these "rough edges" are just excuse making, the sound exactly like the sort of things people say to avoid losing weight, quitting s

> And let's face it, most of these "rough edges" are just excuse making, the sound exactly like the sort of things people say to avoid losing weight, quitting smoking, etc. In this comment you sound like you're absolutely convinced that linux is the best in every way, and as if linux is a goal, rather than tool to you. If these rough edges are "excuses" not to use the tool, then how is that not a perfectly legitimate reason not to use it? This is coming from someone that has linux as a daily driver by the way. I think over the years a lot of these rough edges have gone away, but some are still there. Sound configuration, multiple screen setup or gaming are just a couple of big examples that are still jarring and sometimes don't work right and would absolutely be a turn off for normal users, and a valid reason even for devs to say they don't want this. People make it sound like these excuses are "entitled" from devs who don't want to contribute, but that just reveals that they think they're entitled to that dev's contribution, which is not true.

flukus 7y ago
> If these rough edges are "excuses" not to use the tool, then how is that not a perfectly legitimate reason not to use it? Because it gets a little old seeing people reason themselves into a position where they are stuck with apple and it's the fault of linux as the GP did. If only linux were better I wouldn't have to keep buying apple. If they aren't willing to jump ship then apple has zero incentive to change anything, so they're just stuck and unwilling to accept any way out. > In this comment you sound like you're absolutely convinced that linux is the best in every way, and as if linux is a goal, rather than tool to you. It is, at least getting myself off abusive proprietary software is the goal. I can write at length of the problems in linux, but at least I'm not stuck complaining about telemetry and being too lazy to do anything about it anymore. I've still got a way to go in other areas.
- OrderlyTiamat 7y ago
  This seems perfectly reasonable, and this is for me also part of the reason I'm using linux. I do however still sympatise with devs and users that simply aren't comfortable making the switch because of these "excuses". I think their position of staying with proprietary software is also perfectly valid- although as you point out, this doesn't help the greater good.

flukus 7y ago

> If these rough edges are "excuses" not to use the tool, then how is that not a perfectly legitimate reason not to use it? Because it gets a little old seeing people reason themselves into a position where they are stuck with apple and it's the fault of linux as the GP did. If only linux were better I wouldn't have to keep buying apple. If they aren't willing to jump ship then apple has zero incentive to change anything, so they're just stuck and unwilling to accept any way out. > In this comment you sound like you're absolutely convinced that linux is the best in every way, and as if linux is a goal, rather than tool to you. It is, at least getting myself off abusive proprietary software is the goal. I can write at length of the problems in linux, but at least I'm not stuck complaining about telemetry and being too lazy to do anything about it anymore. I've still got a way to go in other areas.

OrderlyTiamat 7y ago
This seems perfectly reasonable, and this is for me also part of the reason I'm using linux. I do however still sympatise with devs and users that simply aren't comfortable making the switch because of these "excuses". I think their position of staying with proprietary software is also perfectly valid- although as you point out, this doesn't help the greater good.