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Be Elon: > Tesla factory unlikely to lose power even if most of Fremont does because of agreement with PG&E https://twitter.com/PBRStreetGang7/status/11817839

Be Elon: > Tesla factory unlikely to lose power even if most of Fremont does because of agreement with PG&E https://twitter.com/PBRStreetGang7/status/1181783935413436416 https://twitter.com/PBRStreetGang7/status/118178393541343641... ( disclaimer: might be usual twitter humbug https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-crowd-sourced-social-media-swarm-that-is-betting-tesla-will-crash-and-burn-20190409-p51ck5.html https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-crowd-sourced-so... )

baddox 7y ago
So, be corrupt? There’s no other way to describe a deal that a large company can make with the electricity company to keep its electricity running when the electricity company shuts off everyone else’s power.
- mc32 7y ago
  :::erm::: The State Gov and PG&E. Do you think there isn't corruption right there? The more regulation, the more opportunity for extraction/corruption. Who's doing the inspections, who gets contracted to clear brush, who gets power, who doesn't, etc. It's kinda like MUNI, just not quite there, but I don't doubt Sacramento can get them to EDELCA.
  - baddox 7y ago
    No, I very much think there is vast corruption all the way up and back.
- core-questions 7y ago
  Why is this automatically corruption? They're no doubt paying for the privilege.
  - baddox 7y ago
    Huh? The part where they pay doesn’t make it not be corruption.
    - quotemstr 7y ago
      If it's "corruption" to pay more for greater reliability, it's "corruption" to pay more for a large sandwich than a small one. There's nothing wrong with the quality of good or service varying according to how much you pay.
      - baddox 7y ago
        Sure, you could frame it that way: Tesla is paying for “increased” reliability, and everyone else just gets their power shut off at a whim. To me, there feels like a big difference between a reliability SLA and an exemption from what is supposedly a vital emergency shutdown.
        jjeaff 7y ago
        Presumably, if you are paying more, then part of that increased amount you are paying is to make certain that the portion of the grid needed to keep your factory going is properly maintained. Unlike the rest of the grid. Which would apparently be too expensive (i.e. everyone on the grid would need to pay the extra fees for increased uptime).
- wil421 7y ago
  How’s that corrupt? If they have an agreement there are likely penalties if they can’t meet the agreement. I worked for a company that was losing a million dollars a day because they couldn’t provide a critical service to a manufacturer.
- newnewpdro 7y ago
  It's not corruption, it's business.
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baddox 7y ago

So, be corrupt? There’s no other way to describe a deal that a large company can make with the electricity company to keep its electricity running when the electricity company shuts off everyone else’s power.

mc32 7y ago
:::erm::: The State Gov and PG&E. Do you think there isn't corruption right there? The more regulation, the more opportunity for extraction/corruption. Who's doing the inspections, who gets contracted to clear brush, who gets power, who doesn't, etc. It's kinda like MUNI, just not quite there, but I don't doubt Sacramento can get them to EDELCA.
- baddox 7y ago
  No, I very much think there is vast corruption all the way up and back.
core-questions 7y ago
Why is this automatically corruption? They're no doubt paying for the privilege.
- baddox 7y ago
  Huh? The part where they pay doesn’t make it not be corruption.
  - quotemstr 7y ago
    If it's "corruption" to pay more for greater reliability, it's "corruption" to pay more for a large sandwich than a small one. There's nothing wrong with the quality of good or service varying according to how much you pay.
    - baddox 7y ago
      Sure, you could frame it that way: Tesla is paying for “increased” reliability, and everyone else just gets their power shut off at a whim. To me, there feels like a big difference between a reliability SLA and an exemption from what is supposedly a vital emergency shutdown.
      - jjeaff 7y ago
        Presumably, if you are paying more, then part of that increased amount you are paying is to make certain that the portion of the grid needed to keep your factory going is properly maintained. Unlike the rest of the grid. Which would apparently be too expensive (i.e. everyone on the grid would need to pay the extra fees for increased uptime).
wil421 7y ago
How’s that corrupt? If they have an agreement there are likely penalties if they can’t meet the agreement. I worked for a company that was losing a million dollars a day because they couldn’t provide a critical service to a manufacturer.
newnewpdro 7y ago
It's not corruption, it's business.

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