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If you look at "E. Access to Your Account and Content" section in the Chinese iCloud T&C [1], it seems like there is an extra clause there not present in the sa

If you look at "E. Access to Your Account and Content" section in the Chinese iCloud T&C [1], it seems like there is an extra clause there not present in the same section in the US T&C [2]. "...You understand and agree that Apple and GCBD will have access to all data that you store on this service, including the right to share, exchange and disclose all user data, including Content, to and between each other under applicable law." Shouldn't this be cause for concern? [1] https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/gcbd-terms.html https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/gcbd... [2] https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/terms.html https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/term...

Despegar 7y ago
Apple has said in statements to the press, as well as Tim Cook's interview with Vice, that they retain the keys and that they haven't been made available to GCBD. >Originally, iCloud data was stored on Apple-controlled servers, with the Cupertino company holding the encryption keys. Apple announced a year ago that this would change to comply with new laws in China, and that data for Chinese iCloud accounts would be moved to a server run by Guizhou-Cloud Big Data (GCBD), a company owned by the provincial government. >However, I have spoken to Apple today, who confirmed that it still holds the encryption keys, and states categorically that they have not been made available to either GCBD or China Telecom. https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-china-telecom/ https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-china-tel...
- bduerst 7y ago
  Where did Tim Cook specifically say that? Because in the vice interview you keep citing he specifically dances around answering that question. The servers were nationalized and the TOS agreement was changed since that 9-to-5 article came out. Maybe Apple isn't giving access, but forcing the users to move to data centers which are later nationalized, and Then forcing users to agree to give access to that same state-owned company doesn't sound like they are restricting access anymore.

Despegar 7y ago

Apple has said in statements to the press, as well as Tim Cook's interview with Vice, that they retain the keys and that they haven't been made available to GCBD. >Originally, iCloud data was stored on Apple-controlled servers, with the Cupertino company holding the encryption keys. Apple announced a year ago that this would change to comply with new laws in China, and that data for Chinese iCloud accounts would be moved to a server run by Guizhou-Cloud Big Data (GCBD), a company owned by the provincial government. >However, I have spoken to Apple today, who confirmed that it still holds the encryption keys, and states categorically that they have not been made available to either GCBD or China Telecom. https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-china-telecom/ https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/18/chinese-icloud-data-china-tel...

bduerst 7y ago
Where did Tim Cook specifically say that? Because in the vice interview you keep citing he specifically dances around answering that question. The servers were nationalized and the TOS agreement was changed since that 9-to-5 article came out. Maybe Apple isn't giving access, but forcing the users to move to data centers which are later nationalized, and Then forcing users to agree to give access to that same state-owned company doesn't sound like they are restricting access anymore.