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No point in debating the details of which tech is more secure or what is encrypted or adulterated or whatever. Apple has made it clear that they will make sure
by SiVal 7y ago
No point in debating the details of which tech is more secure or what is encrypted or adulterated or whatever. Apple has made it clear that they will make sure the Chinese gov't gets what it wants. Even in a supposedly "autonomous" Hong Kong, China complains and Apple submits--flags, apps, speech, whatever. No need to even go to court, and certainly no point.
So Apple has made it clear that if China wants something, the tech details won't matter. "Oh, I'm sorry, we don't have that information to give you." "Well, start keeping it from now on, but don't tell them, because telling them would offend us, and you don't want that...."
- millstone 7y agoIt's not "whatever." Apple has removed emoji and an app; they don't provide the government with backdoors or biometric data. There really is a line.
- jakelazaroff 7y agoWhy do you think there's a line? What is that based on?
- corodra 7y agohttps://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/apple-iphone-ipad-government-data-privacy-transparency-report-2018-a8697761.html https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/ne... 2018: "The iPhone maker’s latest Transparency Report reveals it received 32,342 demands from governments around the world to access 163,823 devices, with 80 per cent of the requests granted." Come on, seriously? This is what they ADMIT to worldwide. Here's on China: https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/cn.html https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/cn.html Again, what they admit to. And that's only on the second half of 2018. With all their regular anti-consumer practices on hardware, you're really going to imagine they're champions of individual freedoms and privacy?
- bluesix 7y agoApple's iCloud servers for Chinese users are located in China, run by a Chinese tech service provider and provides them with the keys - as stipulated by the Chinese government. Of course the government has access to the data.
- sneak 7y agoiCloud is backdoored at the server for all users in China.
- taylodl 7y ago"So Apple has made it clear that if China wants something, the tech details won't matter." This is an interesting statement and has important implications here in the United States as well: who's the bigger entity? The Multinational Megacorporation or the Country? Who dictates terms to whom? If a company wishes to do business in a country shouldn't they be expected to follow their laws? We need to be very careful in how we answer this question because we're at risk of losing our own democracy to a corporatacracy.