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> His only complaints seems to be the lack of evidence That's seriously disingenuous. His complaints is about how what Tim wrote doesn't make any sense, not ab

by dwild 7y ago

> His only complaints seems to be the lack of evidence That's seriously disingenuous. His complaints is about how what Tim wrote doesn't make any sense, not about evidence. He only ask for evidence because he is logical, he knows that he may have not thought of everything and could be potentially wrong. > The first allegation is that “the app was being used maliciously to target individual officers for violence”. This makes no sense at all. The app does not show the locations of individual officers at all. It shows general concentrations of police units, with a significant lag. How could you explains this? I don't even need evidence, just a way for that to be possible (without outside coordination, that would be just absurd, simply use the same channel to coordinate instead).

baddox 7y ago
I thought I provided a reasonable interpretation of Cook's comments in my previous comment, when I said "It seems like everyone agrees that this app was useful for organizing Hong Kong protests, and that some Hong Kong protesters have committed violence and broken local laws." Of course the app doesn't show individual officers, but I don't think it's reasonable to interpret Cook's memo as claiming that the app literally showed the location of individual officers. An app that shows hotspots of police activity can obviously be used to find and target individual officers for violence.
- infamia 7y ago
  > Of course the app doesn't show individual officers, but I don't think it's reasonable to interpret Cook's memo as claiming that the app literally showed the location of individual officers. I'm not certain how else to read the passage below other than Cook claiming protestors used it to target individual officers somehow. "However, over the past several days we received credible information, from the Hong Kong Cybersecurity and Technology Crime Bureau, as well as from users in Hong Kong, that the app was being used maliciously to target individual officers for violence" -Tim Cook

by dwild 7y ago

baddox 7y ago

I thought I provided a reasonable interpretation of Cook's comments in my previous comment, when I said "It seems like everyone agrees that this app was useful for organizing Hong Kong protests, and that some Hong Kong protesters have committed violence and broken local laws." Of course the app doesn't show individual officers, but I don't think it's reasonable to interpret Cook's memo as claiming that the app literally showed the location of individual officers. An app that shows hotspots of police activity can obviously be used to find and target individual officers for violence.

infamia 7y ago
> Of course the app doesn't show individual officers, but I don't think it's reasonable to interpret Cook's memo as claiming that the app literally showed the location of individual officers. I'm not certain how else to read the passage below other than Cook claiming protestors used it to target individual officers somehow. "However, over the past several days we received credible information, from the Hong Kong Cybersecurity and Technology Crime Bureau, as well as from users in Hong Kong, that the app was being used maliciously to target individual officers for violence" -Tim Cook