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>You can pick them up from the boats, but Turkey won't take them back. What then? <sarcasm> Well... has anyone ever heard of Australia? https://en.wikipedia.

>You can pick them up from the boats, but Turkey won't take them back. What then? <sarcasm> Well... has anyone ever heard of Australia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_Australia >Australia is the only country in the world with a policy of mandatory detention and offshore processing of asylum seekers who arrive without a valid visa. Find some islands somewhere and send the refugees there. And then wait. Oh, and make threatening videos like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvz3U-JOvOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvz3U-JOvOU </sarcasm>

pkaye 7y ago
I'm curious how all this is different from what Trump has been attempting to do at the US border? So shipping asylum seekers to a country with a semi-dictator or an island somewhere is considered acceptable?
- deogeo 7y ago
  If having a dictator rules out a country, then according to this map, we'd have to take in nearly everyone: https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/ https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/
- morningseagulls 7y ago
  >So shipping asylum seekers to a country with a semi-dictator or an island somewhere is considered acceptable? I had <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags there... Australia's asylum policy has been the subject of both domestic and international criticism,[0] particularly with its policy of mandatory detention of unlawful arrivals.[1] >I'm curious how all this is different from what Trump has been attempting to do at the US border? Trump LOVES the Australian asylum policy and has been praising it since 2017.[2][3] As the New York Times pointed out in July, "Trump’s immigration approach isn’t new: Europe and Australia went first".[4] In fact, the Trump travel ban[5] is pretty much how the White Australia policy[6] would have looked like if Deakin, the attorney-general of the first federal government, had not watered down the original racial criteria in the Immigration Restriction Bill to the dictation test.[7] The bill was one of the concessions demanded by the Labor party (yes, the same centre-left union-based party that is oh-so-progressive today[8]) in exchange for supporting the minority Barton government.[9] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_Australia#Public_debate_and_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_Australia#Public_deb... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_Austr... [2] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-27/donald-trump-tweets-support-for-australias-immigration-policy/11251800 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-27/donald-trump-tweets-s... [3] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/08/trump-somehow-made-australia-s-prime-minister-seem-reasonable-on-refugees.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/08/trump-somehow-ma... [4] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/world/immigration-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/world/immigration-trump.h... [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_travel_ban https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_travel_ban [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Restriction_Act_1901 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Restriction_Act_19... [8] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-08/albanese-shorten-labor-australians-first-ad-criticised/8506358 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-08/albanese-shorten-labo... [9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Government#Immigration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Government#Immigration
aaomidi 7y ago
I've had a friend of mine die when he went to Australia like this. Anything to get out of Iran.
- morningseagulls 7y ago
  I'm really sorry to hear that. I'm also very puzzled: why would people take the sea route to Australia? I can understand crossing the Mediterranean sea by boat, but sailing to Australia is far more risky.

pkaye 7y ago

I'm curious how all this is different from what Trump has been attempting to do at the US border? So shipping asylum seekers to a country with a semi-dictator or an island somewhere is considered acceptable?

deogeo 7y ago
If having a dictator rules out a country, then according to this map, we'd have to take in nearly everyone: https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/ https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/
morningseagulls 7y ago
>So shipping asylum seekers to a country with a semi-dictator or an island somewhere is considered acceptable? I had <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags there... Australia's asylum policy has been the subject of both domestic and international criticism,[0] particularly with its policy of mandatory detention of unlawful arrivals.[1] >I'm curious how all this is different from what Trump has been attempting to do at the US border? Trump LOVES the Australian asylum policy and has been praising it since 2017.[2][3] As the New York Times pointed out in July, "Trump’s immigration approach isn’t new: Europe and Australia went first".[4] In fact, the Trump travel ban[5] is pretty much how the White Australia policy[6] would have looked like if Deakin, the attorney-general of the first federal government, had not watered down the original racial criteria in the Immigration Restriction Bill to the dictation test.[7] The bill was one of the concessions demanded by the Labor party (yes, the same centre-left union-based party that is oh-so-progressive today[8]) in exchange for supporting the minority Barton government.[9] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_Australia#Public_debate_and_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asylum_in_Australia#Public_deb... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_detention_in_Austr... [2] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-27/donald-trump-tweets-support-for-australias-immigration-policy/11251800 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-27/donald-trump-tweets-s... [3] https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/08/trump-somehow-made-australia-s-prime-minister-seem-reasonable-on-refugees.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/08/trump-somehow-ma... [4] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/world/immigration-trump.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/world/immigration-trump.h... [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_travel_ban https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_travel_ban [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy [7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Restriction_Act_1901 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Restriction_Act_19... [8] https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-08/albanese-shorten-labor-australians-first-ad-criticised/8506358 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-08/albanese-shorten-labo... [9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Government#Immigration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barton_Government#Immigration

aaomidi 7y ago

I've had a friend of mine die when he went to Australia like this. Anything to get out of Iran.

morningseagulls 7y ago
I'm really sorry to hear that. I'm also very puzzled: why would people take the sea route to Australia? I can understand crossing the Mediterranean sea by boat, but sailing to Australia is far more risky.