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How much protein do you think a normal person needs? Valter Longo recommends ".31 to 0.36 grams per pound of body weight). That comes to 40 to 47 grams of prote

by baxtr 7y ago

How much protein do you think a normal person needs? Valter Longo recommends ".31 to 0.36 grams per pound of body weight). That comes to 40 to 47 grams of proteins per day for a person weighing 130 pounds, and 60 to 70 grams of protein per day for someone weighing 200 to 220 pounds." Why would you really need meat at all if those numbers are correct? https://valterlongo.com/daily-longevity-diet-for-adults/ https://valterlongo.com/daily-longevity-diet-for-adults/

mancerayder 7y ago
Normal person? What about abnormal athletes, or people who do weight training? How many peas are required if you want both a calorie surplus and 1 to 1.5 grams of protein per lb of body weight?
- mantoto 7y ago
  And do you think this is a real problem because a relevant amount of people are doing weighttrainig? I don't think so. I would even bet that the amount is way below 1%
  - mancerayder 7y ago
    "Normal people" are dying not just because of their poor diets, but because of their lack of activity. The "normal person needs X protein" comment above doesn't consider this, because "normal people" are doing it wrong. They're statistically sitting at desks in in cars, so it doesn't matter what they need. Not to mention that is a pulled-out-of-a-hat cherrypicked statistic. No one agrees on how many grams of protein is needed, anyway.
- sprflyprgrmrguy 7y ago
  Seems to be 4g of protein per 85g (1/2cup) of peas. I weight ~72 kg (~160lb); recommendation is 1.5-2g of protein per kg, so I'd need 142g of protein per day on the high end, which equates to roughly 3017.5g, 71 cups, of peas daily. Frozen walmart sweet peas are .84c per bag, each bag contain 4 servings, roughly $7.45 in peas per day. For comparison, chicken breast @ 100g (3.5oz or .45 lb) is 31g of protein. I'd need 458g of chicken breast, around 2.25lbs. I can get it for $1.99/lb, but the better quality stuff is $6.99/lb, so $4.48 to $15.72/day. When I'm eating to put on muscle I buy the cheap crap and slow cook it and toss hot sauce on it. Lentils are a better choice than peas, you'd probably need half as much. I'd rather eat chicken than copious amounts of a plant alternative, but I have started eating more lentils b/c they're not at all as bad as I thought they'd be. I hate peas though.
  - davidivadavid 7y ago
    I'm not sure how realistic eating 3kg of peas per day is. People would just get bored real fast, if they even manage to ingest that volume of food.
    - sprflyprgrmrguy 7y ago
      it would be awful. carbs are 11g per serving, I can't imagine how crappy you'd feel eating 71 cups of peas in a day.
vfc1 7y ago
It's a myth you get more than enough protein on a plant-based diet. I hear that those numbers are bloated and that most people would do fine with 30 to 40g. Soy would give all the protein you need and then some. Eat soy, lentils, beans, chickpeas. Awesome food for you. Worst case, pea protein powder for body building, but indeed whole foods is ideal instead of highly processed foods. You should watch the Game Changers movie for more information on vegan body building. Not that I would know anything about it, I haven't been to a gym in 10 years.

by baxtr 7y ago

mancerayder 7y ago

Normal person? What about abnormal athletes, or people who do weight training? How many peas are required if you want both a calorie surplus and 1 to 1.5 grams of protein per lb of body weight?

mantoto 7y ago
And do you think this is a real problem because a relevant amount of people are doing weighttrainig? I don't think so. I would even bet that the amount is way below 1%
- mancerayder 7y ago
  "Normal people" are dying not just because of their poor diets, but because of their lack of activity. The "normal person needs X protein" comment above doesn't consider this, because "normal people" are doing it wrong. They're statistically sitting at desks in in cars, so it doesn't matter what they need. Not to mention that is a pulled-out-of-a-hat cherrypicked statistic. No one agrees on how many grams of protein is needed, anyway.
sprflyprgrmrguy 7y ago
Seems to be 4g of protein per 85g (1/2cup) of peas. I weight ~72 kg (~160lb); recommendation is 1.5-2g of protein per kg, so I'd need 142g of protein per day on the high end, which equates to roughly 3017.5g, 71 cups, of peas daily. Frozen walmart sweet peas are .84c per bag, each bag contain 4 servings, roughly $7.45 in peas per day. For comparison, chicken breast @ 100g (3.5oz or .45 lb) is 31g of protein. I'd need 458g of chicken breast, around 2.25lbs. I can get it for $1.99/lb, but the better quality stuff is $6.99/lb, so $4.48 to $15.72/day. When I'm eating to put on muscle I buy the cheap crap and slow cook it and toss hot sauce on it. Lentils are a better choice than peas, you'd probably need half as much. I'd rather eat chicken than copious amounts of a plant alternative, but I have started eating more lentils b/c they're not at all as bad as I thought they'd be. I hate peas though.
- davidivadavid 7y ago
  I'm not sure how realistic eating 3kg of peas per day is. People would just get bored real fast, if they even manage to ingest that volume of food.
  - sprflyprgrmrguy 7y ago
    it would be awful. carbs are 11g per serving, I can't imagine how crappy you'd feel eating 71 cups of peas in a day.

vfc1 7y ago

It's a myth you get more than enough protein on a plant-based diet. I hear that those numbers are bloated and that most people would do fine with 30 to 40g. Soy would give all the protein you need and then some. Eat soy, lentils, beans, chickpeas. Awesome food for you. Worst case, pea protein powder for body building, but indeed whole foods is ideal instead of highly processed foods. You should watch the Game Changers movie for more information on vegan body building. Not that I would know anything about it, I haven't been to a gym in 10 years.